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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Ah, so it is all relative, except when it isn't.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It occurs naturally in a significant percentage of the population?
    Nice try...wrong...only 6 % and its not natural

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Heres a truth...you can make up all the inferences you want, you can apply all your own personal ideals...and the truth is you cant answer the question truthfully...to do so would make you wrong....Define How homosexuality is normal.....you cant. Im done with the conversation for now...because theres too much dishonesty and the cheerleaders will never admit to being wrong...

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Actually, lpast, you cannot win this. There is no one at DP more stubborn than I. You have not answered the question in any satisfactory way. In this thread alone, you have given a definition, then contradicted the very definition you gave, demonstrating your hypocrisy on the issue. Once you answer the question, you will get my answer... not before.

    Define normal.
    Youve already lost, you have proven you can only attack your opponent with dodges and accusations of them being dishonest andput words in their mouth to attempt to change their meaning.....you are totally unable to prove any of your points and you refuse to answer my question...Define how homosexuality is Normal....because you cant answer it,to do so would make you wrong...and your ego could never allow that. Homosexuality is neither normal or natural thats a truth no matter how many times you and your cheerleading squad say its not so.
    I relish in your loss CC and I relish that when your put in the same position you love to put everyone else in....you fail....
    I have no animosity and certainly no hatred for homosexuals. They apparently have more hatred towards me because I dont agree with them. The only dislike I have is their constant overbearing attempts to force me to agree with them...I dont agree with anyone about anything merely because they insist that I do. I either believe it or I do not.
    Everyone thats for homosexual marriage on this forum have no facts to support their arguments all they have is what you CC accuse everyone else of. acting on emotion.
    Im through with this conversation for now...its become pointless because you cant answer the question...but im sure another like conversation will come about "SHORTLY"

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    THIS is why I ALWAYS ask for how one is defining normal.
    When your asked to define how its normal....your unable or unwilling to expose the weakness in your postion and you refuse to answer

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    It is clear, looking at the edit you made to your last but one post, that you are referring to normal simply in the sense of average. Obviously I would agree with you in criticising that notion if it was then used as the basis for a moral judgement. But normal isn't used in this sense alone, indeed seeing as it is based on the root 'norm' I would say it shouldn't be used simply as average anyway( but that boat has long sailed it seems), as I said it is a problematic term, at least unless it is defined succinctly.
    I'm not simply limiting it to "average". No matter how it's defined it'll end up being a fallacy in a moral argument.

    If it's used to describe, as you put it, "what is right or proper or natural", then the argument begs the question since the conclusion that something is or is not right or proper or natural is implied by the premise.

    No definition of "normal" can exist which allows one to use it as the means to draw a conclusion about the morality of an action which is not fallacious.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    But one might be able to construct an argument relating man's usual intuitions or how, on aggregate, he has felt, reasoned and pronounced on behaviour, to what is normal in the sense of correct, proper or even moral.
    True, it's possible for someone who excels at constructing logical arguments to create a valid argument of this sort, but the premises in these instances will usually be ones that are of very dubious veracity, thus making the arguments far more likely to be unsound ones.

    Those people are rare, though. I have yet to encounter one directly.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Nice try...wrong...only 6 % and its not natural
    Yes it is natural. Your making the mistake of equating natural with good, cannibalism is also natural, but that doesn't make it good. Admit this or accept the fact that Jewish, and left-handed people are also evil deviants, you can't have it both ways.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yes it is natural. Your making the mistake of equating natural with good, cannibalism is also natural, but that doesn't make it good. Admit this or accept the fact that Jewish, and left-handed people are also evil deviants, you can't have it both ways.
    But wait--cannabalism is a practice, a choice. Jewishness is a genetic situation into which one is born, and so is which hand is dominant. How do your examples apply to homosexuality?

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yes it is natural. Your making the mistake of equating natural with good, cannibalism is also natural, but that doesn't make it good. Admit this or accept the fact that Jewish, and left-handed people are also evil deviants, you can't have it both ways.
    Now thats just a bunch of crap there, what do you do star memorize everything CC says ?? and repeat and ask it all over again
    GET THIS RIGHT...It is NOT natural for two males to have sex nor two females and it doesnt have a damn thing to do with being Jewish or lefthanded....you nor cc no anyone else will ever be allowed to play games with what I said....I have no qualms saying whatever it is I want to say all on my own. I wont even respond to absurd crap like this again
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