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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Have you got evidence that backs this up?

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    Here you go:

    There are approximately 6 billion people on the planet. It is estimated that homosexuals make up 4%-6% of the population. Lets go with the average of that... 5%. Simple mathematics then dictates that 300 million people are gay. I would say that's a pretty significant number.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Here you go:

    There are approximately 6 billion people on the planet. It is estimated that homosexuals make up 4%-6% of the population. Lets go with the average of that... 5%. Simple mathematics then dictates that 300 million people are gay. I would say that's a pretty significant number.
    damn, I would expect to be hearing far more shrieks of "Marvelous" and seeing far more guys with better fashion sense!

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Here you go:

    There are approximately 6 billion people on the planet. It is estimated that homosexuals make up 4%-6% of the population. Lets go with the average of that... 5%. Simple mathematics then dictates that 300 million people are gay. I would say that's a pretty significant number.
    And to put that in perspective, imagine if every single person you met in the United States was gay.

    Which is also known as "a conservative's worst nightmare come true."

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And to put that in perspective, imagine if every single person you met in the United States was gay.

    Which is also known as "a conservative's worst nightmare come true."
    I thought a conservative's worst nightmare come true would be Zombie gays that raise taxes, take away our guns, and win the war on Christmas?

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Based on how you have defined normal and abnormal, from a purely objective standpoint, no, there cannot.

    Let me tell you what I say to clients when I first meet them about the word "normal". I explain that there are several words that I do not like using when conducting therapy. Normal is one of them. I explain that normal "is the cycle on a washing machine", that there is no normal except what our own experiences tell us that normal is and that is not universal. Using the term normal, unless you are using it in statistical terms, is ALWAYS a value judgment of some sort. This is why no anti-GM debater can answer the question and why I enjoy watching them squirm so much with it. They haven't figured out that arguing "normal" is a losing proposition, unless you argue it from a statistical standpoint... which doesn't suit their purposes. They want to make a value judgment, withOUT making a value judgment, which is not possible. This is why the "normal" question is such a failure and why I enjoy watching the outrage of anti-GM folks when I confront them. Their is no defense for my position on this, unless one does one of the following three things: 1) use normal in a statistical sense; 2) admit to using "normal" as a means to a value judgment; 3) admit that defining normal is context is relative to the individual. As you can see, each of these three responses are loser positions if one is trying to prove the lack of normalcy of homosexuality towards the anti-GM position. Yet, anti-GM folks STILL try to argue this. And I'll just keep forcing them to try to define it, and laughing when it sinks their position no matter how they respond.
    Thanks for the reply.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And to put that in perspective, imagine if every single person you met in the United States was gay.

    Which is also known as "a conservative's worst nightmare come true."
    That would really suck whether you were conservative or a liberal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Considering you live in Carollton, Texas - would you say that polar bears are "abnormal"?
    If I were to look out my window and see a polar bear, yes I would consider that abnormal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    That would really suck whether you were conservative or a liberal.
    Come to think of it, you're right. Every supermarket would be Whole Foods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Come to think of it, you're right. Every supermarket would be Whole Foods.
    On the bright side, after about 25 or 30 years, there would be no need for daycare centers!

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Based on how you have defined normal and abnormal, from a purely objective standpoint, no, there cannot.

    Let me tell you what I say to clients when I first meet them about the word "normal". I explain that there are several words that I do not like using when conducting therapy. Normal is one of them. I explain that normal "is the cycle on a washing machine", that there is no normal except what our own experiences tell us that normal is and that is not universal. Using the term normal, unless you are using it in statistical terms, is ALWAYS a value judgment of some sort. This is why no anti-GM debater can answer the question and why I enjoy watching them squirm so much with it. They haven't figured out that arguing "normal" is a losing proposition, unless you argue it from a statistical standpoint... which doesn't suit their purposes. They want to make a value judgment, withOUT making a value judgment, which is not possible. This is why the "normal" question is such a failure and why I enjoy watching the outrage of anti-GM folks when I confront them. Their is no defense for my position on this, unless one does one of the following three things: 1) use normal in a statistical sense; 2) admit to using "normal" as a means to a value judgment; 3) admit that defining normal is context is relative to the individual. As you can see, each of these three responses are loser positions if one is trying to prove the lack of normalcy of homosexuality towards the anti-GM position. Yet, anti-GM folks STILL try to argue this. And I'll just keep forcing them to try to define it, and laughing when it sinks their position no matter how they respond.
    Unless of course they had some sort of essentialist or realist philosophy or perspective, like the vast majority of people in the pre-modern West and outside the West.
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