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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    The answer is: normal is arbitrary.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Statistics courses are for suckas.

    They will give you a formula for figuring out the likelihood of a coin coming up heads after coming up tails 99 times in a row. That formula doesn't tell you the truth. The truth is it is still 50/50 heads/tails. The outcome is not dependent upon previous coin flips.
    Actually statistics WILL give you the outcome of it being 50/50 regardless of how many times it has come up heads before. The difference would be, are you measuring something with independent variables (the case you just pointed out) or something with dependent variables (like a deck of cards).
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    Semantics. Would it have appeased you if I had stated the hypothesis as "the chance of someone being partial (especially minor) color blind"? It's silly to ridicule people because of semantics.
    I'm not trying to ridicule anyone.

    I'm just a math nerd who had a dumb moment from acting like a math nerd in this debate.


    As for rest about defining normal as +/- one deviation? Sounds like an opinion I could get behind. Honestly I have given up defining normal/abnormal for others a long time ago. My definition is pretty far out there in regards to abnormal compared to most.
    Which is basically the point I was getting at.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    The answer is: normal is arbitrary.
    Actually, I'd say, beyond statistics, normal is relative, but you're pretty close.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Depending on the hypothesis and the level of deviation the individual performing the hypothesis is looking for to define "within normal limits". Most times, this would be, as you said, two standard deviations, though sometimes it is one.
    Assuming a normal distribution, that is. If the distribution is a true bimodal distribution, for example, you could actually end up with a situation where the 50% of the total population involved in the distribution actually falls outside of two standard deviations from the mean of that distribution.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Assuming a normal distribution, that is. If the distribution is a true bimodal distribution, for example, you could actually end up with a situation where the 50% of the total population involved in the distribution actually falls outside of two standard deviations from the mean of that distribution.
    True, I was assuming a normal distribution in my discussion. It would be entirely different if we were looking at skewed distributions.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It occurs naturally in a significant percentage of the population?
    Have you got evidence that backs this up?

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Have you got evidence that backs this up?
    Are they robots? Cause if they aren't, it's natural.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    All this statistic stuff is nice, but I'm not sure how normality relates to whether homosexuality is bad.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    All this statistic stuff is nice, but I'm not sure how normality relates to whether homosexuality is bad.
    It doesn't.

    The argument that normal = good and abnormal = bad is called the naturalistic fallacy and is a common form of illogical argument.

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