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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Define abnormal.
    I dunno, Cap. I'm just asking you a question. (How did I know I would regret it?)

    I would say normal is that which is common to my experience and the experiences of most with whom I come into contact. Abnormal would be the opposite, I suppose.

    Now may I ask you once more . . .

    Is there any behavior that can properly be termed abnormal? In your opinion?
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    I would say normal is that which is common to my experience and the experiences of most with whom I come into contact. Abnormal would be the opposite, I suppose.
    Considering you live in Carollton, Texas - would you say that polar bears are "abnormal"?

    Is there any behavior that can properly be termed abnormal? In your opinion?
    I think what we can all agree that educated consent is a key determinant in normality. A human being who sleeps with a pig is not normal because the pig can't give its consent to having sex anymore than a dead body can. So we should start from there and move along. This needs to be narrowed down even further as we're likely to get into polygamy. Even then however, by the definition given by lpast, polygamy is far more normal than monogamy. As much as certain people would like to argue otherwise, relationships based on "one man, one woman" is a relatively new invention. Polygamy on the other hand has been practiced in almost every single culture since day one.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    I dunno, Cap. I'm just asking you a question. (How did I know I would regret it?)

    I would say normal is that which is common to my experience and the experiences of most with whom I come into contact. Abnormal would be the opposite, I suppose.

    Now may I ask you once more . . .

    Is there any behavior that can properly be termed abnormal? In your opinion?
    Based on how you have defined normal and abnormal, from a purely objective standpoint, no, there cannot.

    Let me tell you what I say to clients when I first meet them about the word "normal". I explain that there are several words that I do not like using when conducting therapy. Normal is one of them. I explain that normal "is the cycle on a washing machine", that there is no normal except what our own experiences tell us that normal is and that is not universal. Using the term normal, unless you are using it in statistical terms, is ALWAYS a value judgment of some sort. This is why no anti-GM debater can answer the question and why I enjoy watching them squirm so much with it. They haven't figured out that arguing "normal" is a losing proposition, unless you argue it from a statistical standpoint... which doesn't suit their purposes. They want to make a value judgment, withOUT making a value judgment, which is not possible. This is why the "normal" question is such a failure and why I enjoy watching the outrage of anti-GM folks when I confront them. Their is no defense for my position on this, unless one does one of the following three things: 1) use normal in a statistical sense; 2) admit to using "normal" as a means to a value judgment; 3) admit that defining normal is context is relative to the individual. As you can see, each of these three responses are loser positions if one is trying to prove the lack of normalcy of homosexuality towards the anti-GM position. Yet, anti-GM folks STILL try to argue this. And I'll just keep forcing them to try to define it, and laughing when it sinks their position no matter how they respond.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Probably a dumb question but what constitutes normal, statistically? Within two standard deviations?

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    That's not a question for a definition, it's how a circumstance fits a definition. A definition would be in a question like, say "define normal."
    I dont need you to define my questions...Im capable of asking my own...

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, you have NOT answered my question... even in THIS thread you contradicted yourself. You defined normal in statistical terms, then denied that being Jewish was not normal. You need to identify a definition of normal that applies, universally and contextually, as definitions do. THEN I will answer your question.

    Define normal.
    CC your typical debate style of no substance and bullying and bogarting does NOT work with me...your twisting and fabricating others intent and meaning will not work either....you will NOT win this debate asking a perpetual question ad nausem. Ive answered your question several times...your twisting my response to fit your need to avoid answering mine is typical of your avoidance tactics..so again
    Define how homosexuality is Normal.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Shoulds don't matter. What matter is the reality.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by sookster View Post
    Shoulds don't matter. What matter is the reality.
    What planet do you derive your reality from

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    ? You stupid?

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