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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    God, what a tedious thread this must have been to participate in. It illustrates perfectly one of my two life rules: 1)Never eat yellow snow and 2)never get into a debate with a teenager who's been home schooled her whole life.
    And what's wrong with being home schooled?
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    And what's wrong with being home schooled?
    Nothing. It's just not "normal".
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Nothing. It's just not "normal".
    Damned homephobes (fear of home schoolers) probably hold their views out of ignorance of what home schooling actually is.

    the same is true for those who judge homosexuals /subliminalmessage
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Damned homephobes (fear of home schoolers) probably hold their views out of ignorance of what home schooling actually is.

    the same is true for those who judge homosexuals /subliminalmessage
    Actually, you're quite right about my ignorance on homeschooling. I honestly have very little idea of what that entails. What I can say is that I've run into homeschooled people on debate forums with some degree of frequency, and the result of that homeschooling is extremely consistent:

    *Adequately well educated in the three R's, but the overall education seems to focus (again, simply from what I've been able to ascertain from the result) on an ideological bent (you get three guesses what that ideology is and the first two don't count).
    *Whatever their homeschooling entailed, it did not appear to involve any particular demand on citing sources or backing claims. Empirica's habit of not providing supporting evidence for anything she says whatsoever is entirely consistent with this. The impression I get is that her word is the source of evidence for her argument. (Reminds me of a Start TNG episode, where one of the crew must be prosecuted and defended in court based entirely on the evidence of opinions and hearsay).
    *More jaw-dropping, chronic use of logical fallacies than you can shake a stick at. Ad homs, appeal to majority, appeal to history, it's all good in their eyes. Nobody seems to have told them about logical fallacies, let alone that they were best left unused in arguments.
    *And finally, an absolute smugness about their intellectual inflexibility. It's not enough that all contradictory facts and demands for evidence go ignored, they're proud of their willingness to ignore these things.

    Based on these observations, the moment someone claims to be home schooled I'm outta there. And from what I've seen in this thread and the climate threads, I'm wise to take that approach.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    See folks. I've compiled a list of standard questions/comments that the anti-GM crowd cannot answer, or rebuttals to some of their rhetoric. The "normal" issue is one of the most apparent and easiest to refute. lpast's responses are classic. He won't define normal... then when he does, and does so APPROPRIATELY in statistical terms, he backs off and shows hypocrisy when the statistical definition is used on other issues. Emprica shows a different kind of weakness in this area. She refuses to even define the term, instead using nonsense rhetoric and logical fallacies along with the word. Most folks who argue from the ant-GM position are very poor at doing so... as evidenced in this thread. I have no problem with someone having a differing view on this issue, but if you do, don't post opinions as facts or you will be confronted and your position shown to be fallacious.
    Is there then any behavior that can properly be termed abnormal?

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    Is there then any behavior that can properly be termed abnormal?
    Define abnormal.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Define abnormal.
    ah the same redundant question that has been answered a 100 times...the dishonest one on here is you and your dishonest rhetoric used to discredit anyone that doesnt say what you want..You just use dodges and the same repetitive questions to avoid any one elses facts and points...you just want what YOU want to hear and no one elses opinions or facts count...from where im sitting you are totally unconvincing and you have shared no facts to support your cheerleader chants....you dont debate the issue you just use the same ruse in everyone of these threads on everyone that isnt on your cheerleading team.

    Define how homosexuality is normal
    Last edited by lpast; 12-21-11 at 08:09 AM.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Society in general has no objection to it's members being "different" providing those differences have either a positive or static impact on civilization and in no way presents a threat to it's overall welfare.

    You people demand evidence of societies rejection of immorality, evidence of what is normal, evidence of what is immoral and how it affects society, in a frantical-fanatical-semantical effort to twist facts, confuse reality and legitimize perversion.

    I believe I've made it quite clear that I don't wish to play your silly word games__The point of this thread was of a shy timid little boy, forced to be a pawn by a selfish mother to publicly attack someone who dissagrees with her social policies.

    If anyone would care to comment on this I would be happy to join in, but if your only objective is to legitimize homosexuality by demanding acceptance from normal people, you can count me out___Bye-Bye!
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    ah the same redundant question that has been answered a 100 times...the dishonest one on here is you and your dishonest rhetoric used to discredit anyone that doesnt say what you want..You just use dodges and the same repetitive questions to avoid any one elses facts and points...you just want what YOU want to hear and no one elses opinions or facts count...from where im sitting you are totally unconvincing and you have shared no facts to support your cheerleader chants....you dont debate the issue you just use the same ruse in everyone of these threads on everyone that isnt on your cheerleading team.

    Define how homosexuality is normal
    Do you think it's possible they've been looped?__Ha-Ha!
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Society in general has no objection to it's members being "different" providing those differences have either a positive or static impact on civilization and in no way presents a threat to it's overall welfare.
    Like homosexuality, which has never hurt society?

    You people demand evidence of societies rejection of immorality, evidence of what is normal, evidence of what is immoral and how it affects society, in a frantical-fanatical-semantical effort to twist facts, confuse reality and legitimize perversion.
    Um, no, demanding evidence doesn't twist facts. Refusing to give evidence does because it often means that there is no evidence for the argument.

    I believe I've made it quite clear that I don't wish to play your silly word games__The point of this thread was of a shy timid little boy, forced to be a pawn by a selfish mother to publicly attack someone who dissagrees with her social policies.
    A. Who said that he was forced to do it?

    B. How is it selfish of the mother to want to be treated as an equal to heterosexuals?

    If anyone would care to comment on this I would be happy to join in, but if your only objective is to legitimize homosexuality by demanding acceptance from normal people, you can count me out___Bye-Bye!
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