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Just Plain Wrong

Empirica said:
Is it really that important for you people to be permited to marry your gay lover or is it just to rub your homosexuality in the face of christianity and society in general???
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I'm pretty sure Christians have been rubbing their life in other's faces for a lot longer than the gays have.

It's a pluralistic society Emp. Someday, when you turn 15 and a half and you get your learner's permit and and daddy lets you take the M5 around the block for the first time, you'll realize that you'll have to put up with lot worse than a few flamboyant gays kissing their partners in public. If you want to live in a free society, put your big girl pants on and deal with it. The world does not revolve around you and your immature belief structure. Other people will not temper their lives to meet your expectations. Be the river, not the stone.
 
RadicalModerate said:
I'm pretty sure Christians have been rubbing their life in other's faces for a lot longer than the gays have.
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Your assumption that morality is a christian concept is false.

Morality has been determined by society to be necessary to a successful civilization.

It's a pluralistic society Emp. Someday, when you turn 15 and a half and you get your learner's permit and and daddy lets you take the M5 around the block for the first time,
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As a matter of fact I do drive a beemer but it's mine, although I haven't seen it for 3 months.

you'll realize that you'll have to put up with lot worse than a few flamboyant gays kissing their partners in public. If you want to live in a free society, put your big girl pants on and deal with it. The world does not revolve around you and your immature belief structure. Other people will not temper their lives to meet your expectations. Be the river, not the stone.
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Once again, you girls and boys can get just as kinky as you like and government should stay out of your bedrooms and you should keep your bedrooms out of government__Have fun!
 
RadicalModerate said:
I'm pretty sure Christians have been rubbing their life in other's faces for a lot longer than the gays have.
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Look, I don't like the bigotry that you're addressing any more than you (or at least any more than you do); however...

Assuming Christians and gays (some individuals of each... every group has their morons) have been rubbing asap... then gays have been doing it longer. Sure, they both have been killed for it but gays started first.

Empirica said:
Your assumption that morality is a christian concept is false.
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True.

Morality has been determined by society to be necessary to a successful civilization.
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By the elite of society.

As a matter of fact I do drive a beemer but it's mine,
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Have you considered a rural African vacation?

Once again, you girls and boys can get just as kinky as you like and government should stay out of your bedrooms and you should keep your bedrooms out of government__Have fun!
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Civil unions for everyone, right?
 
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buck said:
Putting her needs above the child's. The child was obviously not comfortable with it, but the mother thought she could score some political points for her cause.
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Because children should always be coddled, and never be forced to do anything they're uncomfortable doing
 
sangha said:
Because children should always be coddled, and never be forced to do anything they're uncomfortable doing
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For political purposes (see your quote, above)? Or do you really believe that it was in the best possible education and development of the child. I mean, being a tool could be something to brag about... I guess. But probably it sks and people laugh at them for it.

ps. I haven't read the thread, I'm just takin' a shot at ya.
 
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ecofarm said:
For politial purposes? Or do you really believe that it was in the best possible education and development of the child. I mean, being a tool could be something to brag about... I guess.
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Including political purposes. I see nothing wrong with what that parent did
 
Well, I'm not reading the thread. It's 1200 posts and I cannot remember posting anything relevant. I'm pretty sure a thread of the same title was in the basement (and I can't remember what I posted there either) so whatever I'm not investigating.

Using children is wrong. For any purpose, but especially political. Fk, if you're gonna brainwash your children by placing them in situations that are life scarring/remembering for YOUR/other's good... then I dunno if there's hope. Risking their ass is their business, and parading children like... ... godwin.
 
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ecofarm said:
Well, I'm not reading the thread. It's 1200 posts and I cannot remember posting anything relevant. I'm pretty sure a thread of the same title was in the basement (and I can't remember what I posted there either) so whatever I'm not investigating.

Using children is wrong. For any purpose, but especially political. Fk, if you're gonna brainwash your children by placing them in situations that are life scarring/remembering for YOUR/other's good... then I dunno if there's hope. Risking their ass is their business, and parading children like... ... godwin.
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It's OK. I didn't read the thread either :lol:

And I dont' see it as "using" the child, nor do I see any reason to think that the child was saying anything that he didn't beleive or was brainwashed into thinking.

And "life scarring"???? You make yourself sound like a sensitive flower
 
ecofarm said:
True.
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Absolutely!

By the elite of society.
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My observations have shown the "elite of society" to be the most immoral of all but they wisely refrain from parading their immoralities in public.

Have you considered a rural African vacation?
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Been there, done that, and would recommend it to anyone looking for an amazing and unforgettable experience.

The sheer number of breathtaking moments to be found in africa will far exceed those anywhere else in the world.

Unfortunately, there is a savagery there unequaled anywhere else in the world which also makes it a very sad place.

Civil unions for everyone, right?
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There are many options couples can utilize to legally involve each other in their personal lives that replicates almost every benefit of marriage.
 
Wake said:
Too bad people can't discuss the issue in the OP...

It's obvious the mother coached her child to say that in Bachmann's ear to make Bachmann look like a heartless monster. OR, if you want to play the game where you say "OH, OF COURSE SHE DIDN'T DO THAT," we'll play that game with ******* everything in politics.
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Fortunately it is extremely easy to make Bachmann look like a heartless monster. It's about as difficult as making a poodle look like a poodle.
 
Empirica said:
Is it really that important for you people to be permitted to marry your gay lover or is it just to rub your homosexuality in the face of christianity and society in general???
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You do realize that, besides being illogical and obnoxious, your statement also does nothing whatsoever to address the points in my post?

Try again.
 
Empirica said:
Is it really that important for you people to be permited to marry your gay lover or is it just to rub your homosexuality in the face of christianity and society in general???
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"Ha ha, you can't deny us civil rights based on religious beliefs anymore, ha-ha!"
Seriously, is that what they will do?
 
Wiggen said:
Fortunately it is extremely easy to make Bachmann look like a heartless monster. It's about as difficult as making a poodle look like a poodle.
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Why shouldn't I take your stupid comment with as much salt as a truly hateful Birther?
 
MadLib said:
"Ha ha, you can't deny us civil rights based on religious beliefs anymore, ha-ha!"
Seriously, is that what they will do?
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I never made that claim__It is the homosexuals who hold christianity responsible for their illegitimacy.

I have always credited society in general for rejecting immorality__Christians are simply a segment of it.
 
The Mark said:
You do realize that, besides being illogical and obnoxious, your statement also does nothing whatsoever to address the points in my post?

Try again.
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That's because your post was pointless.
 
Wake said:
Why shouldn't I take your stupid comment with as much salt as a truly hateful Birther?
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"Hateful Birther". Gotta love it. What's the antithesis of that one, Wake, "Loving fetus slaughterer"?
 
Empirica said:
Once again, you girls and boys can get just as kinky as you like and government should stay out of your bedrooms and you should keep your bedrooms out of government__Have fun!
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At the heart of your position is the inherent immorality of homosexual behavior. That's an objectively indefensible position, so try as you might, you can't defend it on rational grounds.

You can't take on the whole issue of gay rights by focusing on what happens for thirty minutes in a bedroom somewhere. Eventually gays come out of the boudoir and live their lives. The federal government has taken an active role in targeting one specific group of American citizens for exclusion from the same rights granted to others. So unless you disagree with that, this...

government should stay out of your bedrooms and you should keep your bedrooms out of government
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...truly means nothing.
 
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Empirica said:
I never made that claim__It is the homosexuals who hold christianity responsible for their illegitimacy.

I have always credited society in general for rejecting immorality__Christians are simply a segment of it.
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"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them."
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Leviticus 20:13

I suppose homosexuals made that line up.
 
Sunbelt said:
"Hateful Birther". Gotta love it. What's the antithesis of that one, Wake, "Loving fetus slaughterer"?
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I take hackish partisan comments with equal amounts of salt. :shrug:
 
RadicalModerate said:
At the heart of your position is the inherent immorality of homosexual behavior. That's an objectively indefensible position, so try as you might, you can't defend it on rational grounds.

You can't take on the whole issue of gay rights by focusing on what happens for thirty minutes in a bedroom somewhere. Eventually gays come out of the boudoir and live their lives. The federal government has taken an active role in targeting one specific group of American citizens for exclusion from the same rights granted to others. So unless you disagree with that, this...

...truly means nothing.
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For christ sake, get your head out of your boyriends butt and get a glimpse of the real world__This isn't rocket science einstein!

It is society that rejected your perversions and elected a government that simply reflects their family values and moral standards.
 
Wiggen said:
Fortunately it is extremely easy to make Bachmann look like a heartless monster. It's about as difficult as making a poodle look like a poodle.
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Poodles look a bit gay, don't you think? and aren't they French?:shock:
 
You know, it'd be AWESOME if people could focus on the issue itself rather than target eachother.
 
Empirica said:
For christ sake, get your head out of your boyriends butt and get a glimpse of the real world__This isn't rocket science einstein!

It is society that rejected your perversions and elected a government that simply reflects their family values and moral standards.
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Homosexuality isn't a perversion, and the elected government is violating the Due Process and Equal Protection clauses of the Constitution in targeting homosexuals as being excluded from federal recognition of their marriage rights.

Morality and family values have absolutely jack sh!t to do with it. Liars and hypocrites like yourself hide behind these false ideas in order to mask their hatred of people they don't understand or feel empathy for. Plain and simple.
 
Empirica said:
For christ sake, get your head out of your boyriends butt and get a glimpse of the real world__This isn't rocket science einstein!

It is society that rejected your perversions and elected a government that simply reflects their family values and moral standards.
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Society also put up regulations and Obamacare.
 
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