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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    So an act that predates both of those individuals is unnatural....
    The temporal aspect has nothing to do with it, it has to do with human nature, which for Aristotle and the Angelic Doctor is that without which man is not man.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    The temporal aspect has nothing to do with it, it has to do with human nature, which for Aristotle and the Angelic Doctor is that without which man is not man.
    And neither one of them is relevant to this discussion. Trying to dazzle people with bull**** does not change that it is bull****.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    The temporal aspect has nothing to do with it, it has to do with human nature, which for Aristotle and the Angelic Doctor is that without which man is not man.
    It has everything to do with something being "natural". As I mentioned, natural is something that exists in nature. Natural is the normal birthing process...unnatural is a C-Section.

    Homosexuality has existed as long as mankind has existed. It's a natural state. Homosexuality is as natural as hetero-sexuality. A moral construct if it states one thing unnatural that has existed before....even religion....is redifining natural.

    Now...if you have a problem with it due to your own moral code...well everyone has their own moral code, but to claim something is unnatural...when all evidence shows it's a natural occurance is wrong.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And neither one of them is relevant to this discussion. Trying to dazzle people with bull**** does not change that it is bull****.
    And trying to be down to earth and vulgar doesn't mean that there is substance necessarily behind the swearing. It takes something more than you have shown so far to combine substance and vulgarity. It can done. William Cobbett did it wonderfully.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    It has everything to do with something being "natural". As I mentioned, natural is something that exists in nature. Natural is the normal birthing process...unnatural is a C-Section.

    Homosexuality has existed as long as mankind has existed. It's a natural state. Homosexuality is as natural as hetero-sexuality. A moral construct if it states one thing unnatural that has existed before....even religion....is redifining natural.

    Now...if you have a problem with it due to your own moral code...well everyone has their own moral code, but to claim something is unnatural...when all evidence shows it's a natural occurance is wrong.
    What is nature?
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    What is nature?
    Humankinds origional natural condition.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Humankinds origional natural condition.
    What is man and what is his original condition?
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Actually, there is no comparison whatsoever and I imagine your statement would draw critisism from many in the puerto rican community.

    Even though it may not be the "focus" it is the basis of the parade__
    That's right, folks, it's not the focus, but it is the basis.

    Their entire homosexual lifestyle revolves around their sexual orientation.
    That's silly and insulting.

    Does your entire lifestyle revolve around your sexual orientation? And hey, what if it did?
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I'm curious your education. It's hard to beat Columbia and Harvard.........
    Obviously she's a Rhodes Scholar.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Obviously she's a Rhodes Scholar.
    Or she has a BA for Yale, Masters from Princeton and a PhD from Harvard.
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