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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Says the guy that is convinced that the TX GOP is pushing it legislatively, even though they arent.
    Says the guy who thinks such a distinction matters.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Says the guy who thinks such a distinction matters.
    How could it not? If they aren't pushing it legislatively, then the "evil christian right" is not trying to force people not to engage in that type of behaviour - which was where the entire discussion started and how the TX GOP platform became the topic.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    How could it not? If they aren't pushing it legislatively, then the "evil christian right" is not trying to force people not to engage in that type of behaviour - which was where the entire discussion started and how the TX GOP platform became the topic.
    Once again - saying that something isn't being "pushed legislatively" when it's in a party platform based on the various technical copouts you've offered doesn't mean it's not.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Once again - saying that something isn't being "pushed legislatively" when it's in a party platform based on the various technical copouts you've offered doesn't mean it's not.
    Then it should be easy for you to point to the politicians in TX that are introducing the legislation and trying to pass it through the legislature. Actual legislation would go a long way towards your opinion that the Texas GOP is pushing legislation on this topic.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Then it should be easy for you to point to the politicians in TX that are introducing the legislation and trying to pass it through the legislature. Actual legislation would go a long way towards your opinion that the Texas GOP is pushing legislation on this topic.
    They would LIKE to have it passed legislatively. That's the purpose of the platform. They're not because, as you noted, they know they will fail.

    The point was to show that they'd like to, and it's been shown.

    Enough.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Empirica...I'm still waiting to know if a straight woman has a guy go down on her or a straight man goes anally on a woman are those "unnatural" sex acts to?

    Also, sorry but when you have the sight of hundreds of anti-gay christians picketing outside of a funeral on a public city sidewalk holding signs that "God Hates Fags", thanking god for IED's and 9/11, and insulting our troops it tends to make many people question the seriousness of their oppression due to Political Correctness.
    A sect of the Mormon faith believes that having multiple and underage wives is blessed by god, even though it is not tolerated by the laws or morals of society.

    Every young mans dream is having a three way with two hot babes to brag to his buddies about but wouldn't think of telling total strangers or even his family.

    Everyday men and women get super freaky with their lover in the privacy of their homes, cars or wherever, doing things their mother told them never to do.

    Couples you would never suspect, swing at parties on weekends after dropping off the kids at grandmas house and nobody is the wiser on monday morning.

    Most of us are guilty of something we don't dare talk about in public because no matter how innocent it seems to us we're aware that others might judge us immoral.

    The morality of what people do in private is only relevant to the participants and even though there are others who might be offended by those things, it is none of their business.

    That is as long as we keep our dirty little secrets in our own bedrooms, but when we drag them into the public forum and demand acceptance, it becomes society's problem.

    Then we all must deal with the legal and social problems that arise like marriage, adoption, military, public benefits, offensive actions and behavior, etc-etc-etc__The list is endless.

    And then we must explain to little billy and susie why bobby has two daddies, mr smith use to be miss smith, and and the two ladies next door are necking on the front porch, etc-etc yet again.

    The simple truth of the matter is, society will fair much better if we remain ignorant of each others perversions and believing that all of our neighbors are moral upstanding citizens of the community.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    That is as long as we keep our dirty little secrets in our own bedrooms, but when we drag them into the public forum and demand acceptance, it becomes society's problem.

    Then we all must deal with the legal and social problems that arise like marriage, adoption, military, public benefits, offensive actions and behavior, etc-etc-etc__The list is endless.
    So you oppose all marriage? And all displays of sexuality in public? And even hints of them, like holding hands, kissing,etc?

    Oh, plus you're a libertarian.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    The problem is Empirica's way of arguing for her point. If you are going to argue that homosexuality is unnatural(and I do agree with you), then may I suggest reading Aristotle and St.Thomas Aquinas. Otherwise you're simply lost in the vague meaning you, and most of our contemporaries, ascribe to nature.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    The problem is Empirica's way of arguing for her point. If you are going to argue that homosexuality is unnatural(and I do agree with you), then may I suggest reading Aristotle and St.Thomas Aquinas. Otherwise you're simply lost in the vague meaning you, and most of our contemporaries, ascribe to nature.
    I am not sure if you know this, but languages change over time, as does the meaning of words. Why the **** would we be so stupid as to use outdated meanings of words? In the current context, homosexuality is natural. What it was to some one hundreds of years ago is entirely irrelevant to today's world.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am not sure if you know this, but languages change over time, as does the meaning of words. Why the **** would we be so stupid as to use outdated meanings of words? In the current context, homosexuality is natural. What it was to some one hundreds of years ago is entirely irrelevant to today's world.
    I was suggesting Empirica do this, so she can actually mount an argument about nature. It is not that language has changed, simply that the term has become confused. When it is confused, it is sometimes better to clarify one's meaning.

    By the way, you are a very angry person.
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