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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Seriously? You need us to show you the many examples still out there?
    You've just confirmed my previously expressed opinion of you. I didn't state that no one believes that gay activities should be illegal. I stated that you won't find much support from Christians in America for making gay activities illegal. If you have a poll, let me know. I'm open to a new fact. If you just have some anectdotal evidnce, don't bother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    You've just confirmed my previously expressed opinion of you.
    This forum is not about your opinion of me, or mine of you. Stop talking about it.
    I didn't state that no one believes that gay activities should be illegal. I stated that you won't find much support from Christians in America for making gay activities illegal.
    I know. I saw it. And I responded.

    If you have a poll, let me know. I'm open to a new fact. If you just have some anectdotal evidnce, don't bother.
    No, sorry, you are narrowing the terms of the question to suit yourself now. You said "you won't find much support." That was very broad.

    I'd say there are still alot of good examples of christians who favor making homosexual activity (which is a broad set) illegal. That's all I said. If that's not enough for you, fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    No, sorry, you are narrowing the terms of the question to suit yourself now. You said "you won't find much support." That was very broad.

    I'd say there are still alot of good examples of christians who favor making homosexual activity (which is a broad set) illegal. That's all I said. If that's not enough for you, fine.
    The person I was responding to said that righty christians want to make homo illegal because they believe the bible. The obvious implication is that he believes there are a large percentage of them that think homo should be illegal. Otherwise his statement doesn't even make sense. My response that he won't find much support to make homo illegal, should be taken in that context. If you can't follow a conversation between people, please resist the urge to get in the middle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    The person I was responding to said that righty christians want to make homo illegal because they believe the bible. The obvious implication is that he believes there are a large percentage of them that think homo should be illegal. Otherwise his statement doesn't even make sense. My response that he won't find much support to make homo illegal, should be taken in that context. If you can't follow a conversation between people, please resist the urge to get in the middle.
    Good point - you should settle your "implication" between the two of you first, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Then nobody will feel like reading your comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Good point - you should settle your "implication" between the two of you first, huh?
    He's the one that said righty christians want X. He didn't indicate that only a few righty christians want X.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    So, it probably wasn't a good idea if she wanted to embarass Bachman.
    Bachmann does fine in that department all by her pray away the gay self.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I highly doubt you would find much support among christians, anymore, calling for gay activities to be illegal. Society moved on, and it will probably move on in the future on the topic of gay marriage, but not yet.
    Wow. You should be so proud of your progress. Why it's almost humane now. Seriously, do you realize how pathetic that sounds even if what you claim is true? And clearly it is not.

    I would expect your hyper partisan drivel and lack of tolerance for those that disgree with you to always be what it is, though.
    You are correct about one thing. As long as those who take money from religious right wing nut jobs to support legislation that forces others to live according to Bible Thumping judgement, I will be completely intolerant of said bigotry.

    Guilty as charged and damned proud of it.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    You are correct about one thing. As long as those who take money from religious right wing nut jobs to support legislation that forces others to live according to Bible Thumping judgement, I will be completely intolerant of said bigotry.

    Guilty as charged and damned proud of it.
    Yeah. Those damned Chritians. Hate em. Burn em at the stake. Put them to the lions. Of all things.. having the nerve to have a difference of opinion.

    sounds even if what you claim is true? And clearly it is not.
    Then show me this supposed poll confirming that there is wide spread support amongst christians to outlaw homosexual activity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Yeah. Those damned Chritians. Hate em. Burn em at the stake. Put them to the lions. Of all things.. having the nerve to have a difference of opinion..
    Who said anything about hating them? Who said anything about burning them at the stake?

    Oh wait, it was YOU.

    As to the difference of opinion, that isn't the issue. It's the infliction of your opinion that infriges on the lifestyle and the rights of others. Gay behavior has ZERO impact on you. Your "opinion" and its enactment has massive impact on gay people.

    Really a simple concept. Yet so difficult to comprehend for some.


    Then show me this supposed poll confirming that there is wide spread support amongst christians to outlaw homosexual activity.
    You already argue that definitions in Webster's dictionary are wrong. As if it would matter?

    And by the way, homosexual behavior is still illegal in 3 states. and several southern states still attempt to enforce arcane laws.

    And there's plenty of right wing lunatics that want it illegal.

    Montana GOP: Ban homosexuality
    The official party platform declares an intent to make being gay illegal


    Montana GOP: Ban homosexuality - Republican Party - Salon.com
    Certainly things are changing, but a very large percentage of people still think gay behavior should be illegal. Wanna bet the majority of those folks are in fact Right Wing Christians?


    Gallup has been polling American adults since 1977 to learn their belief whether homosexual activity should be criminalized:
    Date Legal Not legal No opinion
    1977-JUN 43% 43 14
    1982-JUN 45 39 16
    1985-NOV 44 47 9
    1986-JUL 32 57 11
    1986-SEP 33 54 13
    1987-MAR 33 55 12
    1988-JUL 35 57 11
    1989-OCT 47 36 17
    1992-JUN 48 44 8
    1996-NOV 47 47 9
    1999-FEB 50 43 7
    2001-MAY 54 42 4
    2002-MAY 52 43 5
    2003-MAY 60 35 5
    Polls on most homosexuality topics show a gradual acceptance of homosexual orientation over time. The question of whether to legalize or criminalize homosexual behavior shows a curious anomaly. In the early 1980s, acceptance of homosexual behavior took a nosedive and did not recover until sometime between mid 1988 and the fall of 1989. The Gallup Organization attributes this temporary reversal to either the "conservative environment ushered in by the Reagan administration, or the beginning of widespread publicity surrounding AIDS..."

    http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_poll2.htm#barna
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