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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, most of the better pro-GM posters debate the position using facts and logic, pretty exclusively. The only occasional question comes from the interpretation of those facts.
    I can't say most of the better ones do somethign or not. I simply know there are two here that apaprently dont.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    The overall point that you seemed to miss while trying to be condescending, was that homosexuality as practiced by animals and homosexuality as practiced by humans are not even close to the same. For example, penguins will act as a gay couple when there is not any other opposite sex penguin available. They will often leave their same sex coupling when opposite sexed penguins are introduced. They are not really gay, in the sense that you seem to be arguing. So, your little diatribe, doesn't prove that homosexuality as practiced by humans is natural.
    Gold medalist in mental gymnastics.

    The "it's not natural" argument is demonstrably false. Do you have another one?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Gold medalist in mental gymnastics.

    The "it's not natural" argument is demonstrably false. Do you have another one?
    Don't need another one. The way it is practiced in the animal kingdom and the way it is practiced by humans are not even close. You are free to disagree, but you would be, IMO, wrong.

    Penguins are not gay, they are just lonely - Telegraph

    Professor F Stephen Dobson, one of the authors of the study published in the journal Ethology, said the number of same sex pairs was actually lower than expected. When the colony was studied over time he found all the ‘gay’ penguins chose a heterosexual partner.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Okay. I disagree with your religion for religious reasons.



    So you oppose kids saying the Pledge of Allegience?
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    And that's perfectly alright.

    See, that's pretty deceitful. This issue is different from having American children recite the national anthem in public schools in America. It just doesn't work, and it's like spitting in the wind. If you're going to use some great, conceptual revelation to prove your point, don't try to compare this apple with that orange because you'll surely be called out on it.
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    Why is it different?
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    Yes it is. But it is also the following...

    intolerant (ɪnˈtɒlərənt)
    adj (foll by of )
    1. lacking respect for practices and beliefs other than one's own
    2. not able or willing to tolerate or endure: intolerant of noise
    Intolerance | Define Intolerance at Dictionary.com
    Definition of INTOLERANT

    1
    : unable or unwilling to endure

    2
    a : unwilling to grant equal freedom of expression especially in religious mattersb : unwilling to grant or share social, political, or professional rights : bigoted

    3
    : exhibiting physiological intolerance <lactose intolerant>

    in·tol·er·ant·ly adverb
    in·tol·er·ant·ness noun

    Intolerant - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary





    Actually you do not. As I just clearly pointed out.



    Wow, you haven't murdered a homosexual? How noble of you.



    Ummmm No. Try again.


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    Wrong yet again. You're really good at that.



    What dictionary would that be? The "Coulter Bachmann" Version? Seriously, you're embarrassing yourself here.
    Your hyperpartisan drivel is completely wrong.

    To be intolerant is to not even allow opinions/share space for the opinions of others. I tolerate your opinion, and don't keep you from expressing it. If I didn't respect your opinion, as in actually bgeing intolerant, you wouldn't be having one.

    I disagree with certain issues, civilly, and that does not make me intolerant, so don't you dare be calling me intolerant when that is not the case.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Your hyperpartisan drivel is completely wrong. To be intolerant is to not even allow opinions/share space for the opinions of others. I tolerate your opinion, and don't keep you from expressing it.
    Drivel? Definitions supported with documentation are drivel? Black is white, up is down, in is out.
    Can you read? That's a serious question. Apparently you can't.

    I disagree with certain issues, civilly, and that does not make me intolerant, so don't you dare be calling me intolerant when that is not the case.
    If your disagreement leads you to vote in such a way that the legislation you support when enacted infringes on the rights of someone else, you are in fact intolerant in deed.

    And clearly, that is the case. Have the nads to admit it. The truth will set you free.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Don't need another one. The way it is practiced in the animal kingdom and the way it is practiced by humans are not even close. You are free to disagree, but you would be, IMO, wrong.

    Penguins are not gay, they are just lonely - Telegraph
    About 1500 species have been observed to engage in homosexual activity. Bonobos are straight up hedonists. Sorry dude. Cling to the penguins all you want, but it's just too common in nature.

    Incidentally, since when is "is it natural" a determinant for whether or not you should ban it? Owning a gun is decidedly unnatural. Let's ban all guns! People should only defend themselves the way "nature" "intended!"

    But it goes beyond that. Your moral disapproval of anything is not sufficient grounds to ban any behavior on my part. You have to show that this behavior is somehow harmful to you. Unless maybe you believe in government legislating morality for you. I know some of you conservatives are quite authoritarian that way.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    There is also a huge difference between accepting homosexuality as normal and trying to legislate and redefine "marriage," which liberals seem very eager to do despite the fact that in the history of humankind, gay "marriage" has not been the status quo.
    You do realize that if you want to get on the topic of what has been normal as far as marriage is concerned, polygamy has been far more common than one man and one woman, correct?
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    This was plastered at the top of the Yahoo web page when I clicked on___It made me angry when I watched it, which is an emotion I rarely experience.

    It's quite obvious this timid little boy is very uncomfortable with the situation his selfish and insensitive mother has forced upon him and possibly even embarrassed by her lifestyle.

    Don't get me wrong, whatever sick perversions she enjoys behind closed doors with another consenting adult is nobodies business but her young son shouldn't be forced to legitimize it.

    It was a set up and the mother didn't have the courage to convey the message herself, instead used her own kid to do it, I am glad that Mrs. Bachmann didn't take the hook and was very nice to the little boy. This was a very stupid move but Liberals are using the method of "Seek and destroy". It's very shameful.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    About 1500 species have been observed to engage in homosexual activity. Bonobos are straight up hedonists. Sorry dude. Cling to the penguins all you want, but it's just too common in nature.
    Alot of it, just like with the penguins, are people conveying their own beliefs and emotions upon animals. They are not gay. They rarely mate with the same sex for life.

    Incidentally, since when is "is it natural" a determinant for whether or not you should ban it? Owning a gun is decidedly unnatural. Let's ban all guns! People should only defend themselves the way "nature" "intended!"
    I never argued wether Homosex is natural. I made that clear in this thread. I am simply stating that someone claiming that animals do it does not make it normal behaviour for humans. The situtations are completly different.

    But it goes beyond that. Your moral disapproval of anything is not sufficient grounds to ban any behavior on my part. You have to show that this behavior is somehow harmful to you. Unless maybe you believe in government legislating morality for you. I know some of you conservatives are quite authoritarian that way.
    Society makes all kinds of moral judgements and laws to dissuade some behaviours and encourage other behaviours. It is part of living in a society. What they do, is of no concern to me. When gays attempt to force their agenda upon society, society has the right to reject it. This may change in the future. For now, though, it hasn't in most states.
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