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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    There is a story about a female wolf who raises a pair of lost children and tarzan of the jungle was of course raised by apes but in most cases it is the unique qualities of a mother and father that creates the perfect most natural environment for child rearing and anyone who believes otherwise is delusional__It's not wise to mess with Mother Nature.
    So men should eat their step-children like lions do?
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    So men should eat their step-children like lions do?
    You mean, like Woody Allen ?
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

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    You mean, like Woody Allen ?
    The guy's got some lion sized balls.

    <insert tiger penis joke>
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Too bad people can't discuss the issue in the OP...

    It's obvious the mother coached her child to say that in Bachmann's ear to make Bachmann look like a heartless monster. OR, if you want to play the game where you say "OH, OF COURSE SHE DIDN'T DO THAT," we'll play that game with ******* everything in politics.

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    There is a story about a female wolf who raises a pair of lost children and tarzan of the jungle was of course raised by apes but in most cases it is the unique qualities of a mother and father that creates the perfect most natural environment for child rearing
    Great anecdote. What does that have to do with the science of human behavior?

    anyone who believes otherwise is delusional
    Once again, Empirica spent almost a whole Sunday afternoon on the wrong side of the internet and now knows more than the most respected medical organizations in the world. Comprehensive, controlled, peer-reviewed, science-based research studies into the complex realm of human behavior?

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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    This is a simple question with a simple answer but first, what is "perversion"?
    perversion - definition of perversion by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
    per•ver•sion (pr-vűrzhn, -shn)
    n.
    A sexual practice or act considered abnormal or deviant.
    That sounds about right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Healthy perversion;__A perversion practiced by consenting adults and kept private behind locked doors__'have fun'!

    Unhealthy perversion;__A perversion exposed to the public and demanded to be accepted and legitimized by society.
    And this is where you go way off course.

    Firstly, we refer back to the definition you handily supplied: "per•ver•sion (pr-vűrzhn, -shn)
    n.
    A sexual practice or act considered abnormal or deviant."


    You'll note the word "considered".

    It would appear another definition is necessary:
    considered - definition of considered by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
    con•sid•ered (kn-sdrd)
    adj.
    1. Reached after or carried out with careful thought; deliberate: my considered opinion; a considered policy involving a measured response to provocations.
    2. Highly regarded; esteemed.

    We'll dismiss the second definition, as I doubt it applies here.

    The first definition, however, applies.

    If we follow the logic, then: What perversion is changes depending who you are talking to - if they consider something a perversion, then it is such, from their perspective.


    In short, what is perverted is a matter of personal opinion.

    There is My Little Pony porn.
    I personally consider that perverted.
    But, quite obviously, some do not - or it would not exist.
    Or perhaps they do, and LIKE perversion.

    /shrug.


    Edit: What I'm trying to say here, Emprica, is that while you may consider X act to be perverted...

    That does not mean that it is perverted, end of story. It ONLY means that YOU THINK it is perverted. Nothing more.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    That sounds about right.

    And this is where you go way off course.

    Firstly, we refer back to the definition you handily supplied: "per•ver•sion (pr-vűrzhn, -shn)
    n.
    A sexual practice or act considered abnormal or deviant."


    You'll note the word "considered".

    It would appear another definition is necessary:
    considered - definition of considered by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
    con•sid•ered (kn-sdrd)
    adj.
    1. Reached after or carried out with careful thought; deliberate: my considered opinion; a considered policy involving a measured response to provocations.
    2. Highly regarded; esteemed.

    We'll dismiss the second definition, as I doubt it applies here.

    The first definition, however, applies.

    If we follow the logic, then: What perversion is changes depending who you are talking to - if they consider something a perversion, then it is such, from their perspective.


    In short, what is perverted is a matter of personal opinion.

    There is My Little Pony porn.
    I personally consider that perverted.
    But, quite obviously, some do not - or it would not exist.
    Or perhaps they do, and LIKE perversion.

    /shrug.


    Edit: What I'm trying to say here, Emprica, is that while you may consider X act to be perverted...

    That does not mean that it is perverted, end of story. It ONLY means that YOU THINK it is perverted. Nothing more.
    Yea right, and war is peace and slavery is freedom.

    Apparently you have no idea how ridiculous this is, otherwise you wouldn't have posted it.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Yea right, and war is peace and slavery is freedom.

    Apparently you have no idea how ridiculous this is, otherwise you wouldn't have posted it.
    No.

    War, peace, slavery and freedom are more easily defined, albeit similarly ethereal and vague in specific details.

    In War, for example, you have two groups of people who disagree so strongly on something that they cannot come to an agreement.

    In peace, you have the same two groups of people (perhaps), yet they CAN come to an agreement.

    Slavery vs. freedom is even less nuanced than the above: In the case of slavery, the enslaved have their freedom of will taken away. In the case of freedom…well, that’s obvious.
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    No.

    War, peace, slavery and freedom are more easily defined, albeit similarly ethereal and vague in specific details.

    In War, for example, you have two groups of people who disagree so strongly on something that they cannot come to an agreement.

    In peace, you have the same two groups of people (perhaps), yet they CAN come to an agreement.

    Slavery vs. freedom is even less nuanced than the above: In the case of slavery, the enslaved have their freedom of will taken away. In the case of freedom…well, that’s obvious.
    Is it really that important for you people to be permited to marry your gay lover or is it just to rub your homosexuality in the face of christianity and society in general???
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    Re: Just Plain Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Is it really that important for you people to be permited to marry your gay lover or is it just to rub your homosexuality in the face of christianity and society in general???
    I think they're just rubbing it in your face. Or, in the case of men...

    Weiner goin' in the wrong place and you can't stop us!! Hahaha!

    I think those who get upset by it have a problem. They're consenting adults; what would you care.

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