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Unbelievable what police in Madison Wisconsin just did

rocket88 said:
Well then it sounds like those districts shouldn't have come to such a hasty agreement.





Of course they had those clauses. The Unions tried to make agreements that favored them, it's not rocket science. School boards are elected to keep these things in mind, that's their job. The Union's job is to try to get what they can for their members.
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amazing, isn't it
those on the reich want to blame the unions for cutting a good deal
they NEVER blame the managers on the other side of the table who agree to such terms that are fiscally irresponsible
 
rocket88 said:
Well then it sounds like those districts shouldn't have come to such a hasty agreement.
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That's true. They shouldn't have. However, this is the problem with public unions. The unions themselves are negotiating against people that are sympathetic and are looking out for the unions as much as possible. So, they rushed contracts through to ensure the teachers woud still be taken care of, not at all concerned, or possible not having a clue, of the negative repercussions.

Of course they had those clauses. The Unions tried to make agreements that favored them, it's not rocket science. School boards are elected to keep these things in mind, that's their job. The Union's job is to try to get what they can for their members.
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The School boards have asked the unions to reopen their contracts to provide the pension and health care benefits (that you insist they already agreed to) so that they won't have to fire teachers or make other budgetary cuts. The teacher's unions said no. If this was something that they already agreed to, why aren't they doing it? Because the unions were playing games with their supposed agreement. It was never real.
 
justabubba said:
amazing, isn't it
those on the reich want to blame the unions for cutting a good deal
they NEVER blame the managers on the other side of the table who agree to such terms that are fiscally irresponsible
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Nope. The "reich" wing (so clever by the way, well done :bravo:) is saying that the individuals that are negotiating with the unions are also to blame. That's the very problem with public unions.
 
buck said:
Nope. The "reich" wing (so clever by the way, well done :bravo:) is saying that the individuals that are negotiating with the unions are also to blame. That's the very problem with public unions.
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so, the unions cut a good deal and you blame them

wouldn't a smart person instead blame the fool across the table who agreed to contract terms that were fiscally irresponsible
 
danarhea said:
The police ARE defending democratically elected government by helping to recall Walker.
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Last time I checked, Walker is the democratically elected governer.
 
danarhea said:
And that's exactly what they are doing - Serving and protecting the public by working to counter a direct threat to democracy in Wisconsin.
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Wow!!! So, the cops now have the authority to go against the authority of their elected civilian leaders?
 
apdst said:
Last time I checked, Walker is the democratically elected governer.
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and, with any luck, he will soon be removed from office in a very democratic fashion
 
Paschendale said:
They can wear whatever they like. While on duty, they ought to be doing their duty. But in this instance, are they on duty during this protest? Nothing in the video suggests that they are.
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They were in uniform.
 
justabubba said:
and, with any luck, he will soon be removed from office in a very democratic fashion
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Other than his attempting fiscally responsible government by not continueing the unfettered support of the union parasites which you love so much, I wonder if you can tell me what the state of Wisconsins fiscal affairs were prior to his election and what they are forcasted to be with their current spending? Do you have any skin in the game? Are your granchildren going to be the ones that have to pay for this generations continued wreckless and idiotic spending all because people like you care only about that free government cheese? If so...I hope your grandkids **** on your grave as well for the debt increases people like you are clamoring for.
 
VanceMack said:
Other than his attempting fiscally responsible government by not continueing the unfettered support of the union parasites which you love so much, I wonder if you can tell me what the state of Wisconsins fiscal affairs were prior to his election and what they are forcasted to be with their current spending? Do you have any skin in the game? Are your granchildren going to be the ones that have to pay for this generations continued wreckless and idiotic spending all because people like you care only about that free government cheese? If so...I hope your grandkids **** on your grave as well for the debt increases people like you are clamoring for.
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a decade ago, a progressive administration left office with the federal government running an economic surplus
only ten years later, after tax giveaways to the elite, unfunded wars, and deregulation of our economic system by your boys, we are on the brink of disaster
forget the free government cheese. your ilk have eaten our nation's seed corn
with any luck, a progressive administration can correct our affairs of state, despite the stupidity exhibited by your side
 
apdst said:
Last time I checked, Walker is the democratically elected governer.
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Not for long, i hope.

The police and firefighters know what he promised and what he delivered instead. How long before he puts the Rs in the state after them ?
 
justabubba said:
so, the unions cut a good deal and you blame them

wouldn't a smart person instead blame the fool across the table who agreed to contract terms that were fiscally irresponsible
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I blame the negotiators on both sides, as well as those that allow public sector employees to unionize. Even FDR knew better and saw the harm that would occur from allowing it. WI is just validating his concerns.
 
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Parrish said:
Not for long, i hope.

The police and firefighters know what he promised and what he delivered instead. How long before he puts the Rs in the state after them ?
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But, until then, he's still the governer.
 
justabubba said:
amazing, isn't it
those on the reich want to blame the unions for cutting a good deal
they NEVER blame the managers on the other side of the table who agree to such terms that are fiscally irresponsible
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Yes they do. They voted their asses out in the 2010 elections. :rofl
 
justabubba said:
a decade ago, a progressive administration left office with the federal government running an economic surplus
only ten years later, after tax giveaways to the elite, unfunded wars, and deregulation of our economic system by your boys, we are on the brink of disaster
forget the free government cheese. your ilk have eaten our nation's seed corn
with any luck, a progressive administration can correct our affairs of state, despite the stupidity exhibited by your side
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Did Walker take over 10 years ago? nah...didnt think so, so Im pretty sure that means you refused to answer the question because you know he inherited a ****pile from...who again? **** "your boys"; Im not interested in the GOP OR your jagoffs either. I care about the fact that both major parties have **** all over your grandchildren and even though you dont care, I dont want to see them saddled with a mountain of overwhelming debt because ****heads were to weak to handle their business and enablers continued to support them.
 
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Jetboogieman said:
Union or Not, it is police responsibility to defend the democratically elected government and not get involved in politics.
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This.

They ought to lose their jobs.
 
the_recruit said:
dude. read the thread. the video's fake. it's footage of police taking DOWN the banner being played in reverse.
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Assuming this is true, why is this fake video here then?
 
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