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    Re: Unbelievable what police in Madison Wisconsin just did

    I was fooled, but very clever video.

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    Re: Unbelievable what police in Madison Wisconsin just did

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The police ARE defending democratically elected government by helping to recall Walker.
    I was under the impression that Walker is the duly and democratically elected governor of the state. And will be until and if a recall petition is successful.

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    Re: Unbelievable what police in Madison Wisconsin just did

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Resume Unions Deals that the state cannot afford!
    So do you think the State of Wisconsin has the right to reneg on its word? They negotiated and signed contracts, and should honor them.

    But really, your view is overly simplistic. The Unions had already agreed to cuts that would save the state money. That wasn't enough for Walker. He couldn't take his cost savings and say "Job well done." No, he was willing to let the cost savings go down the toilet just so he could fulfill his wet dream about busting the Union.

    If you lived anywhere near Wisconsin, you'd know this. Instead, you got your info from what Fox News covered of it.


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    Re: Unbelievable what police in Madison Wisconsin just did

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So do you think the State of Wisconsin has the right to reneg on its word? They negotiated and signed contracts, and should honor them.
    No contracts were signed. That is what started all this. Negotiating new contracts because the old ones were about to expire.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    But really, your view is overly simplistic. The Unions had already agreed to cuts that would save the state money. That wasn't enough for Walker. He couldn't take his cost savings and say "Job well done." No, he was willing to let the cost savings go down the toilet just so he could fulfill his wet dream about busting the Union.
    Yes they did. And no doubt the moment that the economy in Wisconsin looked good they would ask for more money at the next negotiation and all that was gained would go down the crapper. Which is probably what Walker was trying to stop. After all, why use a bandaid when stitches would work better?

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    If you lived anywhere near Wisconsin, you'd know this. Instead, you got your info from what Fox News covered of it.
    Funny how you assume that he got his info from Fox News just because you don't like what he said.
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    Re: Unbelievable what police in Madison Wisconsin just did

    Oh, good grief... it's a joke! I sincerely apologize to anyone who watched this and thought I was attempting to pass it off as real. The Capitol Police were most definitely NOT displaying a RECALL banner (it seemed obvious to me, but apparently it wasn't to everyone). In the future, I'll create a separate youtube channel (a la theonion.com) if I want to post a "fake" video. (By the way, thanks to those who posted positive comments!)

    ladyforward1 10 hours ago 4 The Capitol Police deck the halls... - YouTube
    Ladyforward1 is the YouTube poster that made and posted this fake video. It always amazes me how gullible some adults can be....
    Last edited by FreedomFromAll; 12-04-11 at 01:02 PM.

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    Re: Unbelievable what police in Madison Wisconsin just did

    Just to show that there is proof for the truly faithful.

    Shortly before the second, noontime ceremony began, Capitol police officers removed the "recall" signs, but Huberty said he was told he would get them back.

    Read more: Capitol tree lighting draws protesters, signs

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    Re: Unbelievable what police in Madison Wisconsin just did

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So do you think the State of Wisconsin has the right to reneg on its word? They negotiated and signed contracts, and should honor them.
    They are honoring the contracts they made. Which is why some districts, the ones that rushed contract renewals through prior to Act 10 taking effect, are having problems making budget.

    But really, your view is overly simplistic. The Unions had already agreed to cuts that would save the state money. That wasn't enough for Walker. He couldn't take his cost savings and say "Job well done." No, he was willing to let the cost savings go down the toilet just so he could fulfill his wet dream about busting the Union.
    The union's agreement was simply lip service. The union's had no intention of giving up anything. You can find evidence in the fact that the union's that had their contracts renegotiated prior to Act10 have stated the will not reopen the contract to allow increased contributions for pension or health care benefits in order to help fix district's budgets or allow them to not have to fire teachers.

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    Re: Unbelievable what police in Madison Wisconsin just did

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Then maybe you should identify in your posts that you are talking about them specifically. Otherwise you're just lumping everyone under the same roof. And that tends to send a different message than identifying specific people.

    I agree kal i do have a problem with clarity and I apologize for that....too many emotionless reports written...I acknowledge that I have that fault...

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    Re: Unbelievable what police in Madison Wisconsin just did

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post

    Yes they did. And no doubt the moment that the economy in Wisconsin looked good they would ask for more money at the next negotiation and all that was gained would go down the crapper. Which is probably what Walker was trying to stop. After all, why use a bandaid when stitches would work better?
    That sounds like Bush's tax cuts. "The economy is great, now let's cut taxes." Now we can't afford it, and we can't raise taxes even if we need to. They might very well ask for more when the economy is better. Most people make more money when the economy is good, why should teachers and other public employees be different?



    Funny how you assume that he got his info from Fox News just because you don't like what he said.
    I suppose it's possible that he got it from conservative blogs, etc. However, what was said shows that he was very misinformed, and only knew what the official conservative line was, not the actual facts.


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    Re: Unbelievable what police in Madison Wisconsin just did

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    They are honoring the contracts they made. Which is why some districts, the ones that rushed contract renewals through prior to Act 10 taking effect, are having problems making budget.
    Well then it sounds like those districts shouldn't have come to such a hasty agreement.



    The union's agreement was simply lip service. The union's had no intention of giving up anything. You can find evidence in the fact that the union's that had their contracts renegotiated prior to Act10 have stated the will not reopen the contract to allow increased contributions for pension or health care benefits in order to help fix district's budgets or allow them to not have to fire teachers.
    Of course they had those clauses. The Unions tried to make agreements that favored them, it's not rocket science. School boards are elected to keep these things in mind, that's their job. The Union's job is to try to get what they can for their members.


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