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    GOP gets ready to say 'yes'

    Ive posted a few threads on inner turmoil in the gop between the moderate traditionals and the far right...I posted about Cantor ready to compromise and now this...a much bigger compromise with boehner agreeing.
    I believe there is pressure being put on the GOP leadership about the far right stonewalling from the majority of house members...


    The narrative over the past 11 months is that House Republicans are the party of no: “no” to President Barack Obama, “no” to congressional Democrats and “no” to their own leaders.
    But an amazing thing is about to happen at the close of one of the most politically contentious years in recent history: Republican leadership is about to say yes to Democrats. Yes to unemployment benefits, yes to Obama’s payroll tax holiday and yes on passing an unwieldy pile of year-end spending bills.



    It’s surprising on several levels. Republicans have voiced measured opposition to the payroll tax holiday. Many conservatives don’t believe long-term unemployment benefits encourage people to go back to work and nearly all of them think the current system is broken. Republicans also came into office vowing not to fund the government using massive omnibus bills.


    GOP gets ready to say 'yes' - Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com

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    Re: GOP gets ready to say 'yes'

    i have had a slight change of heart on unemployment benefits. i believe that after a year, they should be halved, and at 2 years, they should end.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: GOP gets ready to say 'yes'

    Here is a good question that was in your post article that I will reword to include all elected officials: why should politicians undermine Social Security by cutting the tax that funds it?. If the current tax rate for SS, before the break, was needed to ensure its continued existence. Why would we continue to pay at a lower rate. How do people(taxpayers) want the shortfall in the future made up for SS?

    Too many people want govt. services/benefits yet do not want to pay for them or have someone else pay for them.
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    Re: GOP gets ready to say 'yes'

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Too many people want govt. services/benefits yet do not want to pay for them or have someone else pay for them.
    Even more of us would be more than happy to OPT OUT of ever taking those services/benefits in the future if we could stop having to pay for them now.

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    Re: GOP gets ready to say 'yes'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Even more of us would be more than happy to OPT OUT of ever taking those services/benefits in the future if we could stop having to pay for them now.
    I can't disagree. My concern is too many today would say let me opt out, and 20 years from now say I am broke, the govt needs to help me. Your idea would work if people would really be accountable for their own actions. Many do not want to be.
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    Re: GOP gets ready to say 'yes'

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    I can't disagree. My concern is too many today would say let me opt out, and 20 years from now say I am broke, the govt needs to help me. Your idea would work if people would really be accountable for their own actions. Many do not want to be.
    The way the documents should be worked is simple..... You legally sign away all rights to any future SS/Medicare aid in return for not paying the taxes now. Very simple. It would be required to be notarized

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    Re: GOP gets ready to say 'yes'

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    I can't disagree. My concern is too many today would say let me opt out, and 20 years from now say I am broke, the govt needs to help me. Your idea would work if people would really be accountable for their own actions. Many do not want to be.
    hence the Cpwill Social Security Fix - which only lets you opt out in a way that assures your responsibility.

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    Re: GOP gets ready to say 'yes'

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i have had a slight change of heart on unemployment benefits. i believe that after a year, they should be halved, and at 2 years, they should end.
    I am kicking myself for never having thought of a timelined reduction in payouts. I'm going to steal that idea.

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    Re: GOP gets ready to say 'yes'

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I believe there is pressure being put on the GOP leadership about the far right stonewalling from the majority of house members..
    .... then I would have to ask where you see this coming from. Most Republicans are generally okay with how the House Leadership has held up since the spring debacle.

    The narrative over the past 11 months is that House Republicans are the party of no: “no” to President Barack Obama, “no” to congressional Democrats and “no” to their own leaders.
    the problem being, of course, that that narrative is a lie.

    Republicans were willing to start with the Bowles Simpson Commission. Democrats said "no".
    The House has passed a budget which would have saved us from a downgrade. The Senate said "no".
    The House has passed no less than 20 jobs bills to which the Senate said "no".
    House Republicans have offered no less than three major compromises which would have included net effective tax rate increases, to which Obama and the Senate have said "no.

    in fact, there is only one thing Republicans have said "no" consistently to over the past year - and that is the continued Democrat insistence on doing nothing without a minimum Trillion dollar tax hike.

    But an amazing thing is about to happen at the close of one of the most politically contentious years in recent history: Republican leadership is about to say yes to Democrats. Yes to unemployment benefits, yes to Obama’s payroll tax holiday and yes on passing an unwieldy pile of year-end spending bills.
    which they propose to pay for by holding federal civilian employee wages flat for 5 years. going to be interesting to see how you spin it if democrats say "no" to that.

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    Re: GOP gets ready to say 'yes'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I am kicking myself for never having thought of a timelined reduction in payouts. I'm going to steal that idea.
    i actually just thought of it....wonder why it's never been mentioned?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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