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Adam Carolla: OWS Movement "Self-entitled monsters"

The Communist Party in the U.S. was/is part of the OWS protests. If you cannot acknowledge that simple fact, then you're just being dishonest.

You said that there were a lot of communists in the occupy movement.
Then you come and say well the CPUSA is part of the OWS movement.
Now how many people are in the CPUSA? An estimated 2,000 registered members.... Man that is A LOT OF PEOPLE!
 
It's hard to blame Carolla or anyone else who are taking an opportunity to trash the idea behind the OWS movement. It's most public face is in fact kids that ought to be out trying to earn a living rather than talking about raising taxes on those that earn or get the most money in our society.

Unfortunately OWS's public face isn't the average guy who has, in fact, gone out and worked hard and chose a profession that has been downsized, outsourced or outright eliminated, and can't react to the changes in the market fast enough to find work doing something else.

And no matter what any defending of the 1% may say, earnings of the 1% have SKYROCKETED in the past few decades while earning of the 99% have stagnated at best. The 1% have all of the leverage to determine how much they get paid and the 99%, due to weakening of unions and an overall pro-corporate/anti-employee culture, have virtually none. It's hard for me to keep a straight face when someone suggests that the people on the lower rungs of the social ladder just need to climb higher. This profound disparity in wages is shameful and immoral.

Hey, a reasonable non-jerkfest post. I can agree with that. Much appreciated.
 
You said that there were a lot of communists in the occupy movement.
Then you come and say well the CPUSA is part of the OWS movement.
Now how many people are in the CPUSA? An estimated 2,000 registered members.... Man that is A LOT OF PEOPLE!

You said the civil rights movement and OWS were comparable because people (wrongly, say you) said there were Communists in both. I reminded you that there actually ARE Communists in the OWS movement and now you're backtracking saying, "Well, it isn't very MANY!" Oy.
 
I'll have to listen to this when I get home. By and large I enjoy Carolla.

And now Girls Jumping on Trampolines

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I tried hitting f11 several times to make it work, it almost did, but next time you need to post video of girls on tramps (err trampolines)
 
You said the civil rights movement and OWS were comparable because people (wrongly, say you) said there were Communists in both.
No i posted this first saying : "Ending child labor: "self entitled monsters"
Women can vote: "self entitled monsters"
Civil rights for blacks: "self entitled monsters" "

Point being every movement was to some mostly conservatives people who were: "self entitled monsters".

You then stated: "Comparing OWS to civil rights is moronic."

I then stated: "Your right... Remember when all the right were talking about how OWS is a bunch of communists? "

Meaning that pretty much any left wing movement were just a bunch of communist. The OWS movement was once stated as being just a bunch of radical communists that hate America.

You then said: "That would be a great point except that many of the OWS ARE Communists."

The Occupy movement is a very very large number of people. And a lot of the OWS are communists?

I then said: "Yes sense we know there are sooooo many communists in America... "

You then said: "The Communist Party in the U.S. was/is part of the OWS protests. If you cannot acknowledge that simple fact, then you're just being dishonest."
Well oh my god the CPUSA was in the occupy movement!? Well how many people are in the CPUSA? 2,000... 2,000.. Now im guessing not all those 2,000 members were at the occupy movement..

I reminded you that there actually ARE Communists in the OWS movement and now you're backtracking saying, "Well, it isn't very MANY!" Oy.
No **** there are communists in a movement that want corporate money out of politics. You claimed that there are a lot (many) in the movement. The only proof you had of that is that the CPUSA took part in some marches.....
 
That would be a great point except that many of the OWS ARE Communists.
A lot of people in the Civil Rights movement were communists and socialists too. Your point?
 
I'm not the one making the point here.
Really? So when you said:

That would be a great point except that many of the OWS ARE Communists.

You didn't mean anything by it. It's totally cool with you that some in OWS are Communists? Interesting. That's a completely different opinion from the one you made in every other thread. I've always gotten the impression that you think communists being part of OWS is a bad thing.
 
Right...cuz...hey...we can just SAY they werent...and suddenly...all of em...NOT.
I don't know what this ellipses fest means, but I imagine it means that you still think saying "Klan members were Democrats" means something it doesn't.

You dont have two party's to choose from and even within your (ooops...I mean THEIR...you know...the OWS morons) beloved party they can support candidates that dont in every way embody the things they pretend to hate. Or...just keep on being lying hypocrites...they can do that too. But you have to admit, 'they' look PRETTY DAMN STUPID spending all these months just OH so very outraged...OUTRAGED I tell ya over the influence in politics when the politicians they hate are the ones they elected and will reelect.
I didn't say that there were only two parties to choose from. I said that we exist in a two party system. Not to mention the fact that some members of OWS are socialists, communists, et al. who do not support either party.
 
Really? So when you said:



You didn't mean anything by it. It's totally cool with you that some in OWS are Communists? Interesting. That's a completely different opinion from the one you made in every other thread. I've always gotten the impression that you think communists being part of OWS is a bad thing.

?? Are you following the conversation here? I wasn't commenting on the good or bad about Communists in the movement, simply that they're there.
 
?? Are you following the conversation here? I wasn't commenting on the good or bad about Communists in the movement, simply that they're there.
So then you are completely dissociating yourself from your past comments about communists in OWS. Interesting.

Oh and TheDemSocialist is also right about his point. Many in the right said that OWS is a bunch of communists which is an unsubstantiated claim.
 
Wait, wait, wait... Hold it AC.

It would seem some people think the country owes them a bail-out.

The winners, the job-creators, ran the system into the ground and then blackmailed the treasury into giving them money to pay off bad debts $1:1.

Too big to fail? Please tell me the ultra-conservative memory isn't that short....

Those really successful people at AIG, Leman Bros, GM, Chrysler...


We just found out the treasury has secretly continued giving banks loans at 0.01%...
 
Wait, wait, wait... Hold it AC.

It would seem some people think the country owes them a bail-out.

The winners, the job-creators, ran the system into the ground and then blackmailed the treasury into giving them money to pay off bad debts $1:1.

Too big to fail? Please tell me the ultra-conservative memory isn't that short....

Those really successful people at AIG, Leman Bros, GM, Chrysler...


We just found out the treasury has secretly continued giving banks loans at 0.01%...

I wouldn't wait for a rational response to this post from conservatives/libertarians. It ain't gonna happen.
 
So then you are completely dissociating yourself from your past comments about communists in OWS. Interesting.

:sigh: No, I'm not. You are adding your own thoughts about what you think I'm saying. I wasn't even mentioning the positives or negatives of Communists in the movement. Somehow you got that I suddenly don't care about it anymore. Oy.
 
:sigh: No, I'm not. You are adding your own thoughts about what you think I'm saying. I wasn't even mentioning the positives or negatives of Communists in the movement. Somehow you got that I suddenly don't care about it anymore. Oy.
So do you think it's a good thing that Communists are part of the OWS movement or do you still, as you always have, think it's a bad thing? If it's the latter, then my comments were dead on. If it's the former, why the sudden change of heart?
 
:sigh: No, I'm not. You are adding your own thoughts about what you think I'm saying. I wasn't even mentioning the positives or negatives of Communists in the movement. Somehow you got that I suddenly don't care about it anymore. Oy.

The main point is that there aren't enough communist in the movement to even mention it.
 
The main point is that there aren't enough communist in the movement to even mention it.

I would say that's true if they were just Joe Schmos. Some are in forms of leadership in the movement, so it makes it more important.
 
So do you think it's a good thing that Communists are part of the OWS movement or do you still, as you always have, think it's a bad thing? If it's the latter, then my comments were dead on. If it's the former, why the sudden change of heart?

It's a bad thing that Communists are in leadership in the OWS movement. I don't care if the regular ole peasant commie is part of it. You have to watch who has the power and the biggest voice.
 
It's a bad thing that Communists are in leadership in the OWS movement. I don't care if the regular ole peasant commie is part of it. You have to watch who has the power and the biggest voice.
Okay, so then my original post was spot on.

A lot of people in the Civil Rights movement were communists and socialists too. Your point?
 
It's a bad thing that Communists are in leadership in the OWS movement. I don't care if the regular ole peasant commie is part of it. You have to watch who has the power and the biggest voice.

The thing about OWS is there is no "big" voice, so that dog doesn't really bark.
 
Oh look another pat ourselves on the back thread for conservatives and libertarians to congratulate each other on having the same opinion about a strawman.

I look forward to seeing you come forward with this opinion when the shoe is on the other foot.....I'm sure i'll see it happen, right?


I don't think he is absolutely correct, but he does raise some decent points.. in a humorous fashion
 
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