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    Re: Adam Carolla: OWS Movement "Self-entitled monsters"

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    that's true, there were Commies in the CRM... and they sucked then too.
    Meh, I wouldn't say that W.E.B. DuBois or Angela Davis "sucked", but even if they did, the point still remains that a movement does not become less legitimate simply because communists are involved.

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    Re: Adam Carolla: OWS Movement "Self-entitled monsters"

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Meh, I wouldn't say that W.E.B. DuBois or Angela Davis "sucked", but even if they did, the point still remains that a movement does not become less legitimate simply because communists are involved.
    to some folks it doesn't become less legitimate... to others, it does.

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    Re: Adam Carolla: OWS Movement "Self-entitled monsters"

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    to some folks it doesn't become less legitimate... to others, it does.
    So do you think it's valid opinion that Civil Rights movement was illegitimate because communists were a part of it?

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    Re: Adam Carolla: OWS Movement "Self-entitled monsters"

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    to some folks it doesn't become less legitimate... to others, it does.
    Let's put it this way. Just because you have communists in your movement doesn't make your cause any less just or legitimate. If people think OWS or the civil rights movement don't have a legitimate message, that's on them. Just like the Tea Party's message about government spending and waste isn't irrelevant just because there's some idiots with racist signs at tea party rallies.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Adam Carolla: OWS Movement "Self-entitled monsters"

    #38 still skipped and ignored by Cons.

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    Re: Adam Carolla: OWS Movement "Self-entitled monsters"

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    #38 still skipped and ignored by Cons.
    Also my post at #41. I wish I'd put some money on that.

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    Re: Adam Carolla: OWS Movement "Self-entitled monsters"

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    I wouldn't wait for a rational response to this post from conservatives/libertarians. It ain't gonna happen.
    Oh yeah? Well, I'm rubber and you're glue....

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    #38 still skipped and ignored by Cons.
    There, I've replied to post 38 with all the seriousness and contemplation that post warranted.
    Last edited by X Factor; 12-06-11 at 12:24 AM.

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    Re: Adam Carolla: OWS Movement "Self-entitled monsters"

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Also my post at #41. I wish I'd put some money on that.
    Let's see how long they can ignore the obvious...


    Some people think they are entitled to...

    ...a living.

    ...a do-over.

    ...a living after they f-up losing other peoples money.

    ...a hand-out.

    ....a bail-out.

    Ayn Rand argued that certain types of charity were damaging to the individual receiving the charity. Was she talking about moral hazard?

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    Re: Adam Carolla: OWS Movement "Self-entitled monsters"

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    So do you think it's valid opinion that Civil Rights movement was illegitimate because communists were a part of it?
    not necessarily... as part of the civil rights movement and a then-supporter of the movement, I wasn't swayed by the presence of Commies..I chose to ignore them for the most part.. some who were belligerently vocal about Communism got beat down..... but most weren't up front about it either, most hid their leanings as to not take away from the goals of the movement.

    nowadays, I wouldn't associate myself, in a political movement, with any people I don't align with.. even if we share similar stances on whatever issue it is...
    hell, i don't even have a problem dissociating myself with undesirables that I do align with

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    Re: Adam Carolla: OWS Movement "Self-entitled monsters"

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Oh yeah? Well, I'm rubber and you're glue....



    There, I've replied to post 38 with all the seriousness and comtemplation as that post warranted.
    So, you're okay with moral hazard, bailing out failed business institutions, but people who think their entitled to a bail-out..excuse me, hand-out...are garbage?

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