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    Re: Bill To Be Voted On Today Would Allow The Military To Sweep Up US Citizens At

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    The war on terror was invented by the Feds. The purpose is to demand more money and power from people. So when the intelligence and Pentagon are there, the terror will be there too. If there is none, they create one.

    Human have hound in their house to protect their family against the wolf. As the hound getting more power, they don't want to be guards any more. They want to be master. So the hound trained some wolf they captured. Let these agent wolf to attack and kill human. Human is frightened. They give hound whatever they demanded -money, power ..... Now hound become master. When they need something, they let the agent wolf have an attack on human, then said, this is a long war, to protect your lives, I need warrantless surveillance, more budget fund, torture prison.... . The hound repeated its demand, "This enemy has struck us, and they will strike again, and we'll give our folks the tools necessary to protect the country," if you don't then the hound "can not protect ourselves".

    That's why we saw after 10 years, occasionally a wolf or two were captured. But hundreds of thousands of innocent people died. There is an endless war to control people. A constant blackmail for more power.

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    Re: Bill To Be Voted On Today Would Allow The Military To Sweep Up US Citizens At

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonxe View Post
    The terrorists hate us for our freedoms so if we take it away...they won't hate us anymore.
    Brilliant! I never thought of it that way before!

    We are constantly being told that our enemies hate us for our freedom so your logic must be absolutely correct. And here I thought they hated us because of our constant meddling in their way of life!

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    Re: Bill To Be Voted On Today Would Allow The Military To Sweep Up US Citizens At

    Quote Originally Posted by TNAR View Post
    Brilliant! I never thought of it that way before!

    We are constantly being told that our enemies hate us for our freedom so your logic must be absolutely correct. And here I thought they hated us because of our constant meddling in their way of life!
    I like "they hate us for our freedom" better. It's the Paris Hilton defense - "they hate me because I'm rich and hot." It's so Cold War too.
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    Re: Bill To Be Voted On Today Would Allow The Military To Sweep Up US Citizens At

    This is a piece of **** bill. It should not stand. If our leaders cannot see this, bring on the courts.

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    Re: Bill To Be Voted On Today Would Allow The Military To Sweep Up US Citizens At

    Congress Approves Provisions for Indefinite Arrests and Detention of US Citizens

    , SF Conservative Examiner
    December 18, 2011

    Enemies of the People & U.S. Constitution; Congressional Traitors Approved Provisions for Indefinite Arrests, and Detentions of U.S. Citizens, with no Due Processes, Mainly Those Who Criticize Government:

    S.1867, the National Defense Authorization Act, attacks on our liberties was passed to the dismay of Libertarians all over.

    Congress Approves Provisions for Indefinite Arrests and Detention of US Citizens - San Francisco Conservative | Examiner.com

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    Re: Bill To Be Voted On Today Would Allow The Military To Sweep Up US Citizens At

    The Bill does not allow for the indefinite detention of American citizens, without trial or charge.

    it doesn't allow for anyone who is legally residing within the USA, to be detained without trial or charge.

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    Re: Bill To Be Voted On Today Would Allow The Military To Sweep Up US Citizens At

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    The Bill does not allow for the indefinite detention of American citizens, without trial or charge.

    it doesn't allow for anyone who is legally residing within the USA, to be detained without trial or charge.
    Yes, it seems that they have changed the wording to avoid this possibility. Of course I don't speak legalese so I am by no means an expert in this matter.

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    Re: Bill To Be Voted On Today Would Allow The Military To Sweep Up US Citizens At

    Quote Originally Posted by TNAR View Post
    Yes, it seems that they have changed the wording to avoid this possibility. Of course I don't speak legalese so I am by no means an expert in this matter.
    Anyone have a link to the change that does this?
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    Re: Bill To Be Voted On Today Would Allow The Military To Sweep Up US Citizens At

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Anyone have a link to the change that does this?
    Here.

    See Section 1032(b).

    If you look back on page 1 or 2 of this thread you'll see the original text (which was formerly in section 1031 I believe).
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    Re: Bill To Be Voted On Today Would Allow The Military To Sweep Up US Citizens At

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    This is a piece of **** bill. It should not stand. If our leaders cannot see this, bring on the courts.
    Agreed.

    Honestly, the feds are completely psychotic. First they declare that illegals can only be held by local authorities for 48 hours... because "they have rights, too"... then they turn around and pull something so blatantly unconstitutional against legal residents and citizens that the mind positively boggles.

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