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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    All the union jobs I've ever been around this is standard compensation for all paid holidays.

    (in reality you're only getting 1 1/2 time extra pay because you're getting a regular day's pay anyway, whether you work or not)
    For retail:with the incentive to work to earn a paycheck as your only option it makes sense as to why they wouldn't want their workers to Unionize.
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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    In some orgs, the only guaranteed days off are T-Day and Christmas. It's not right to expect employees to give up these days. I'd think that those who are single and have no nearby family would want to seize the opportunity to be paid at least time-and-a-half and work while others with family enjoyed that family day.
    I had to work Thanksgiving last year because demand called for it. That's the way things work. I'm reminded why companies take their jobs overseas in times like this. We remained partially running this year also. I happened to have enough seniority where I didn't have to. While I wouldn't have liked it, I would have worked if need be.

    Maybe it's time for us to do that carpe diem thing for just a lousy 24 hours. I mean, "Black Thursday" it is now? Really? As individuals we can't stop spending money for 24 hours? Big-box orgs can't turn down the profit, I suppose, but we can choose not to pitch a tent outside Best Buy.
    Seems that there are many who enjoy it.

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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I had to work Thanksgiving last year because demand called for it. That's the way things work. I'm reminded why companies take their jobs overseas in times like this. We remained partially running this year also. I happened to have enough seniority where I didn't have to. While I wouldn't have liked it, I would have worked if need be.
    I would've too. That's called "professionalism."

    But I'm not talking about slackers or justifications for outsourcing. I was actually thinking about the person I love most in the world and her professionalism and her need for two guaranteed days off a year. She frequently works for 14-16 days without a day off. She deserved to make a short trip out of town to spend time with family. And even then she was on call and did end up stopping by one of the stores on her way back into town. So not even a full 24 hours.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Seems that there are many who enjoy it.
    That's true. I feel sorry for some of them. It's not all about getting and spending.

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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I would've too. That's called "professionalism."

    But I'm not talking about slackers or justifications for outsourcing. I was actually thinking about the person I love most in the world and her professionalism and her need for two guaranteed days off a year. She frequently works for 14-16 days without a day off. She deserved to make a short trip out of town to spend time with family. And even then she was on call and did end up stopping by one of the stores on her way back into town. So not even a full 24 hours.
    We can't make policies over the example of one person. I get to work New Years eve night just as I did last year. I'd rather not but.......

    That's true. I feel sorry for some of them. It's not all about getting and spending.
    Who am I to feel sorry for those doing something they enjoy?

    With so many unemployed I simply do not understand the complaints.

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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    You'd actually think Target, and all the rest of them, could incentivize their employees with double or triple time...or offer the ones who work a bonus of X% of total sales for the store during their "strange hours." I'd think employees would be standing in line.
    No doubt they get a bonus for working a holiday--probably double time--bit in this ecnomy, you would think that they would be happy to just be working.

    They can always quit; go find another job.
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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I mean, "Black Thursday" it is now? Really? As individuals we can't stop spending money for 24 hours? Big-box orgs can't turn down the profit, I suppose, but we can choose not to pitch a tent outside Best Buy.
    That's what I think we are headed towards. It was unimaginable only a couple years ago, but it certainly looks more probable now.

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    Ebenezer: Every Christmas you say the same thing. And every Christmas it's just as inconvenient as the Christmas before. Good night.

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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    We can't make policies over the example of one person. I get to work New Years eve night just as I did last year. I'd rather not but.......



    Who am I to feel sorry for those doing something they enjoy?

    With so many unemployed I simply do not understand the complaints.
    I specified "some" and meant those who have nothing else.

    And even those who are employed have the right to expect two guaranteed days off a year. I am very grateful to have a job too, but I also expect to have human rights too. Do you disagree that two guaranteed days off a year is reasonable?

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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    That's what I think we are headed towards. It was unimaginable only a couple years ago, but it certainly looks more probable now.

    How far are we from this:

    Ebenezer: I suppose you'll be wanting the whole day tomorrow.
    Bob Cratchit: If quite convenient, sir.
    Ebenezer: Every Christmas you say the same thing. And every Christmas it's just as inconvenient as the Christmas before. Good night.

    Bring on a return to the Dickensian era.
    Well, there won't be a return to child labor, anyway. At least I hope not!

    But wait--maybe for those who don't wish to learn in the formal educational sense, a return to apprenticeships such as a young Ben Franklin edured would be a good thing.

    Just kidding. Mainly.

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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I specified "some" and meant those who have nothing else.

    And even those who are employed have the right to expect two guaranteed days off a year. I am very grateful to have a job too, but I also expect to have human rights too. Do you disagree that two guaranteed days off a year is reasonable?
    There is no "right". I've worked Christmas Day before. I had no "right" to have it off.

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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    My family is more important to me than being forced to work blitz hours at a store - quadrouple time wouldn't be enough to sucker me in.

    Others don't mind and that's fine - but people shouldn't have to ruin one of their few real holidays just because they have to earn a paycheck. businesses should respect that and not stomp on everyone's toes.

    It annoys me slightly that they value customers more than employees . . . even though the slogan is 'the customer is always right' it's just not always true and this is one of those situations where people - if they want to face blitz hours of shopping - should have to do so anyway. If it's inconvenient - then WHY do they do it?
    And now for a reality check. Remember the 9% unemployment rate in the USA? Customers keep Target in business. It's an employers market and anyone who doesn't want to work can be replaced immediately if not sooner. I've worked many times in my life when I didn't want to, but I chose to keep my job instead of creating a bad situation for myself.

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