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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    You said EXACTLY that.
    Then you misunderstood or I misspoke.
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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    So you never ever adjusted any other costs down, whether or not your labor costs went up? All increases in costs always led to price increases?

    And did you lose business due to the price increases?
    Of course not.... you really don't have any clue how businesses are run do you ????

    Costs are cut temporarily for many reasons, but they can't be cut permanently in most cases. For instance, travel expenses can be cut, cheaper hotels and meals, but employees that travel look forward to staying in a nice, safe hotel with a comfortable bed. Same with meals. Both are temporary cost cuts with the majority of businesses.

    You tell me since you are the business guru............what costs can be cut without reducing product and service quality, both of which will reduce sales.

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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Today is a great day to prove my point of where the problem lies.

    Bernanke comes out today saying that the Fed is going to make money even cheaper.

    Fed, Five Central Banks Cut Dollar Swap Rate - Bloomberg

    Who is benefiting today? The markets.

    INDU Quote - Dow Jones Industrial Average Index - Bloomberg

    Did the workers at Target get a raise because they are going to need it.

    Oil above $101 on central banks's liquidity plan - Yahoo! News

    Fundementally are things getting better? That is, the markets are rising but is it because of the things that will creat employment? No.

    News Headlines

    Read this headline. The things that would actually create real growth has been revised downward with wages following. Shouldn't the markets react negatively to this? No, they are rejoicing because Bernanke is going to continue creating inflation.

    There is your problem.
    Just adding on here.

    Weekly Jobless Claims Jump Back Over 400,000 Mark


    News Headlines

    The Markets DO NOT = the economy.

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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Of course not.... you really don't have any clue how businesses are run do you ????
    Please just have a discussion without the extra comments.

    Costs are cut temporarily for many reasons, but they can't be cut permanently in most cases.
    How did Wal-Mart do it then? It built an entire business model on it. Though, of course, some of it involves low labor costs, not all of it does. One of many examples of how Wal-Mart finds efficiencies everywhere:

    http://www.truckinginfo.com/clean-gr...category_id=62

    You tell me since you are the business guru............what costs can be cut without reducing product and service quality, both of which will reduce sales.
    Really? Businesses have never ever found ways to cut costs while producing the same amount at the same quality? Efficiency doesn't happen?

    And I also wonder if you have you ever demanded that the government do the same with less money.

    Don't know what business line you're in, but here's a long list of ways to cut costs without cutting productivity or quality in manufacturing, if you need a little help:

    http://www.halfcostproducts.com/
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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    How did Wal-Mart do it then? It built an entire business model on it.
    By beating up on suppliers, an entirely different scenario.

    Really? Businesses have never ever found ways to cut costs while producing the same amount at the same quality? Efficiency doesn't happen?
    I am talking from the perspective of a service company. Any increases in efficiency or cost cutting we implement are minimal and do not appreciably affect profit.

    And I also wonder if you have you ever demanded that the government do the same with less money.
    No, I demand that they do LESS with less money.

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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    By beating up on suppliers, an entirely different scenario.
    But they did it, didn't they?

    And no, my example showed how they did it in other ways too.

    The bottom line is that your claim that "there's just nothing we can do, we have to keep doing business the same way" is lame and false. It's how businesses fail.

    I am talking from the perspective of a service company. Any increases in efficiency or cost cutting we implement are minimal and do not appreciably affect profit.
    I seriously doubt that too. Thanks for at least acknowledging that some companies can find new ways of doing business and cut costs without sacrificing quality or production though. Maybe you'll pull your head out of the sand and do the same thing. Or just fail like those that don't.

    No, I demand that they do LESS with less money.
    You don't think there's any room for more efficiency in government?
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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    But they did it, didn't they?

    And no, my example showed how they did it in other ways too.

    The bottom line is that your claim that "there's just nothing we can do, we have to keep doing business the same way" is lame and false. It's how businesses fail.
    Nice strawman... I never said anything of the kind.



    I seriously doubt that too. Thanks for at least acknowledging that some companies can find new ways of doing business and cut costs without sacrificing quality or production though. Maybe you'll pull your head out of the sand and do the same thing. Or just fail like those that don't.
    We've been around for over 40 years now, so we must be doing something right.



    You don't think there's any room for more efficiency in government?
    That's an oxymoron.

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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    This is simple. If you don't like your job, get another job. If you are a complainer, you will never be satisfied. As far as I'm concerned I'm happy to be one of those who has a job so I can feed my family. if I have to work late, so be it.
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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    You don't think there's any room for more efficiency in government?
    Id have to see evidence of any efficiency in government before Id argue there is room for more of it

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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Nice strawman... I never said anything of the kind.
    Sure looks like it.

    We've been around for over 40 years now, so we must be doing something right.
    Lots of businesses die after 40 years or more. Many because they sit around saying they've been around for 40 years so what could go wrong?

    That's an oxymoron.
    Cute. Now, got an answer?
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