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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Business? No, I do not think so. Businesses will always pay low skilled workers on the lower end of the pay scale. This is pretty basic stuff. The problem is the governemtn artificially creating inflation.

    You'll note what I say that there is a problem right now because it's been the governments policy to create inflation but it's not fundementally adding anything to the economy. Costs rise. Prices rise but margins do not as a percentage so employee's don't get to benefit.
    I don't think anyone ever argued that businesses should not pay lower skilled workers lower wages.
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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    it doesn't take an economics major to realize that companies are in business to make as much money as they possibly can.
    Duh.

    So are workers. So what?
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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    oh yeah I'm sure the company is just going to absorb the cost and decrease their profit margin in case you haven't noticed...companies are in business to make money for their owners...NOT to provide a "living wage" for their workers.
    So what?

    Businesses need their workers to make money. Workers need the jobs to make money. They will pay as little as they can, and workers will demand as much as they can get.
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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    That's a simplistic way to view things and I suggest that you probably can't prove that any increase in menial wages would result in price hikes.
    It's basic economics. Costs go up, prices go up. Again I'll note, the problem right now is that prices have gone up but wages have not.

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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

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    American Airlines' unions gave $1.6 billion in concessions a few years ago.

    You were saying?
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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I don't think anyone ever argued that businesses should not pay lower skilled workers lower wages.
    then you obviously haven't read many of the threads here that come up on this topic. there is always some liberal whining that people "deserve a living wage" regardless of how uneducated, untrained, unskilled or unmotivated they are.
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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    but it is a wash. they aren't buying more stuff, they are just paying more for the stuff they were already buying.
    No they aren't. They're only paying more for the 10% they buy at Wal-Mart, remember?

    walmart isn't buying more product from its suppliers. the only thing that has changed is that the people who didn't get the raise because they don't work at wallyworld get screwed into paying higher prices. that doesn't help the economy.
    But now it's suppliers have more money, for the same amount of product.

    I see what you're saying, that it's just an inflation spiral. But it's not, because production and worker productivity grows too. Suppliers now have more money for the same product, and they can invest that in new plant and equipment or training or computers or more efficient manufacturing techniques or more workers (!), or buy more supplies to produce more, which they now have an incentive to do because they are getting more for it...

    who said anything about paying people less?
    But that's exactly what is happening. That's one way Wal-Mart has lowered prices.
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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    It's basic economics. Costs go up, prices go up. Again I'll note, the problem right now is that prices have gone up but wages have not.
    Uhh, no, it isn't. Depending on the cost, prices may or may not go up, and they they also do not tend to rise and fall at the same rate as the cost itself. Again, do you guys have one ounce of evidence for your claims?

    ie. If a company is taxed 5%, they may pass none of it along, 1% along or even all 5% - depending on the situation. So, where is your evidence of the rise and fall? kthxbai

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    then you obviously haven't read many of the threads here that come up on this topic. there is always some liberal whining that people "deserve a living wage" regardless of how uneducated, untrained, unskilled or unmotivated they are.
    Well thank you for contradicting yourself. I see that you equate respectable pay with paying lower-skilled workers the same wages as everyone else. I don't think anyone said that.
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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    then you obviously haven't read many of the threads here that come up on this topic. there is always some liberal whining that people "deserve a living wage" regardless of how uneducated, untrained, unskilled or unmotivated they are.
    It hasn't come up on this thread though.
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    Re: Target employees upset about working on Thanksgiving…

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    So what?

    Businesses need their workers to make money. Workers need the jobs to make money. They will pay as little as they can, and workers will demand as much as they can get.
    which is exactly what I said and your genius reply was to insult me they will pay as little as they can. if they are forced to pay more, they will not absorb the cost and make less money, they will raise the price and make the same amount of money.

    crude oil prices go up, does big oil absorb the cost? hell no, they raise gas prices. what makes you think that walmart would act any differently?
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