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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    It's not a theory that the Chinese are paid relatively little and that they are not held to the same safety and ecological standards as companies here.
    And as those Chinese grow richer, they can demand better environmental and safety standards.

    Do you think Americans, with our new infant industry gave a **** about ecological damage or worker safety, in the beginning?
    Hell no, we wanted money because a lot of us were poor.
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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    So what, technology and the economy are not static constructs.
    Things don't stay the same forever.

    Walmart has the market power to push for lower prices.
    Guess who benefits?
    The consumer.
    That's your opinion. I disagree. I believe I would be far better off with paying an extra $3.00 for a pair of jeans and unemployment being at 4%. Unemployment costs me far more.

    Should we ban vehicle GPS systems, because map makers are failing?
    Same principle applies to both.
    No it doesn't. Map makers can go to work for GPS manufacturer's.

    Someone else can do something better and/or cheaper, the other will lose out temporarily.
    The low costs products made in China are ****. Pieces of crap. Do a little research on things like warranties on things like refrigerators over the last 20 years since producion has gone overseas. When they were made here they were often offered with 5 year warranties. I believe the standard warranty is now 6 months.

    That's what happens when you invest in China, instead of America.
    Jobs may go up in China and jobs may go down in the U.S.
    No, it does not have to. If Someone wants to invest in China it does not mean they have to take current jobs with them. Many manufacturers require different things based upon location. How many 28 cubit foot refrigerators with crushed ice in the door do you suppose are sold in China?

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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    And as those Chinese grow richer, they can demand better environmental and safety standards.

    Do you think Americans, with our new infant industry gave a **** about ecological damage or worker safety, in the beginning?
    Hell no, we wanted money because a lot of us were poor.
    There was nobody doing better at the time.

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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    That's your opinion. I disagree. I believe I would be far better off with paying an extra $3.00 for a pair of jeans and unemployment being at 4%. Unemployment costs me far more.
    Then the standard of living will adjust and we'll be right back where we started.
    We'll require more social welfare, because the purchasing power of each dollar will decrease.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    No it doesn't. Map makers can go to work for GPS manufacturer's.
    Really and what if they don't need them?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    The low costs products made in China are ****. Pieces of crap. Do a little research on things like warranties on things like refrigerators over the last 20 years since producion has gone overseas. When they were made here they were often offered with 5 year warranties. I believe the standard warranty is now 6 months.
    Common bull crap misconception.
    The Branded manufacturers dictate the quality of the goods, not the Chinese national government, not a specific ethnic/racial group.

    You pay for the warranties, there is a difference in price.
    What's a warranty?
    Nothing but a piece of crap.

    If the product is good, the seller doesn't need to give a warranty.
    Check this out, many manufacturing plants in China are ISO certified.
    The factory I work in, in the US, is not ISO certified and it's #1 and #2 in 2 different industries.

    So the common untrue complaint about everything from China being crap is plainly untrue.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    No, it does not have to. If Someone wants to invest in China it does not mean they have to take current jobs with them. Many manufacturers require different things based upon location. How many 28 cubit foot refrigerators with crushed ice in the door do you suppose are sold in China?
    Don't know and it doesn't matter.
    I'm quite happy with my non warranty, Chinese stuff.

    I'm sure the Chinese are equally happy to have money to take care of themselves, instead of pursuing the Maoist revolution.
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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    There was nobody doing better at the time.
    Of course there was, we competed directly with Europe.
    We were later in the race and had the lower cost.

    See a parallel emerging here.
    America used to be the China of the manufacturing world.
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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Then the standard of living will adjust and we'll be right back where we started.
    We'll require more social welfare, because the purchasing power of each dollar will decrease.
    More social welfare. Now there is a strong arguement.

    Really and what if they don't need them?
    GPS's get manufactured on their own? We made the blacksmith outdated BUT we made the tires that replaced the job of a blacksmith here.

    Common bull crap misconception.
    The Branded manufacturers dictate the quality of the goods, not the Chinese national government, not a specific ethnic/racial group.
    Mattel dictated that their toys get painted using lead paint?

    Lead Paint Prompts Mattel to Recall 967,000 Toys - New York Times

    A manufacturer that did that here would likely be bankrupt.

    You pay for the warranties, there is a difference in price.
    What's a warranty?
    Nothing but a piece of crap.

    If the product is good, the seller doesn't need to give a warranty.
    Check this out, many manufacturing plants in China are ISO certified.
    The factory I work in, in the US, is not ISO certified and it's #1 and #2 in 2 different industries.

    So the common untrue complaint about everything from China being crap is plainly untrue.
    Everything? No. A good majority? Indeed.

    Don't know and it doesn't matter.
    I'm quite happy with my non warranty, Chinese stuff.

    I'm sure the Chinese are equally happy to have money to take care of themselves, instead of pursuing the Maoist revolution.
    There are more than enough Chinese to manufacture refrigerators for.

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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Of course there was, we competed directly with Europe.
    We were later in the race and had the lower cost.
    Once again, because you said so.

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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    According to PBS, the average WalMart in America employs 333 people. MOST of those jobs are entry level jobs requiring little to no previous employment history. And while I personally love a small town shopping environment, if the total number employed by those mom and pop retailers is considerably less then they are doing themselves as a community a considerable dis-service. That being said...it is THEIR community. Good on them.

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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    According to PBS, the average WalMart in America employs 333 people. MOST of those jobs are entry level jobs requiring little to no previous employment history. And while I personally love a small town shopping environment, if the total number employed by those mom and pop retailers is considerably less then they are doing themselves as a community a considerable dis-service.
    The community obviously decided that the jobs brought in by a WalMart location was not sufficient compensation for whatever damage they felt it would do to the community.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    The community obviously decided that the jobs brought in by a WalMart location was not sufficient compensation for whatever damage they felt it would do to the community.
    What damage could Wal-Mart do?
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