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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The, "how", is irrelevant, if no jobs are created.
    Well, since I was talking about the how, it's reasonable to suppose I was assuming the creation of jobs and focusing on how they were created. If no jobs are created, the entire question becomes moot.

    Just like your post.

    At any rate, the best kind of private-sector job creation involves a local business which buys locally. The worst kind of private-sector job creation involves an international business which buys overseas. WalMart is somewhere in between, leaning towards the crappy side -- the company is domestic but the bulk of the profits leave the community, and a good chunk of the product comes from overseas.
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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Not creating jobs doesn't do anything to help small town America, believe it, or not.
    What makes you think that all those small businesses - bakeries, restaurants, shoe stores, apparel stores, grocery stores, gas & service stations, cleaners, hardware stores, video stores, pizza parlors, toy stores, were not providing valuable jobs in that community? And then we have a whole second layer of business people who service those businesses - plumbers, electricians, handymen, heating and cooling folks, tax accountants and bookkeepers, and others who provide specialized services to the businesses of the community. These are merchants who were local people with local ties and local loyalties who knew and loved their community and wanted to see it be successful only to have some international conglomerate invade, wipe them out and install corporate sycophants loyal only to the corporate profit demands of someone hundreds or thousands of miles away with no loyalty at all to that community or its people.
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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Not creating jobs doesn't do anything to help small town America, believe it, or not.
    I have no problem with a big box such as Wal Mart coming in and providing jobs. My problem is with Wal Marts policies of demanding what they will pay for a product to sell in their stores which force companies to cut and then export jobs or go out of business.

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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    If it makes the town people happy, and thrives, more power to them. If it fails, they learn a valuable lesson. Personally, I don't get the hate for lost cost, easy access to goods and services that Wally-World provides. I shop there... once every 6 weeks or so. Most of the time I shop elsewheres.
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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    If it makes the town people happy, and thrives, more power to them. If it fails, they learn a valuable lesson. Personally, I don't get the hate for lost cost, easy access to goods and services that Wally-World provides. I shop there... once every 6 weeks or so. Most of the time I shop elsewheres.
    It's a combination of:
    • The perception of employer-employee relations that objectors have
    • The perception of WalMart-vendor relations that objectors have
    • The fact that any big-box store is going to dramatically change the economic landscape of any small town
    For the most part, small-town objectors either like things the way they are, or even if they know a change is needed they don't like the kind of change a big-box store entails.
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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I have no problem with a big box such as Wal Mart coming in and providing jobs. My problem is with Wal Marts policies of demanding what they will pay for a product to sell in their stores which force companies to cut and then export jobs or go out of business.
    Over Thanksgiving I heard a story about this guy who started a company selling jalapeno poppers to bars, local stores and what not. Wal Mart got wind of the product and over a few years convinced the guy to ramp up production to supply this product to their stores. This meant a significant capital investment for this guy. At first things were grand and a decent wholesale price was agreed upon. Well Wall Mart comes back year after year and says "we can't pay as much this year." To the point where the guy was losing money. The guys company finally went bankrupt in the end.

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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Over Thanksgiving I heard a story about this guy who started a company selling jalapeno poppers to bars, local stores and what not. Wal Mart got wind of the product and over a few years convinced the guy to ramp up production to supply this product to their stores. This meant a significant capital investment for this guy. At first things were grand and a decent wholesale price was agreed upon. Well Wall Mart comes back year after year and says "we can't pay as much this year." To the point where the guy was losing money. The guys company finally went bankrupt in the end.
    This is why it's good to have a number of smaller customers rather than one big one.
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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Over Thanksgiving I heard a story about this guy who started a company selling jalapeno poppers to bars, local stores and what not. Wal Mart got wind of the product and over a few years convinced the guy to ramp up production to supply this product to their stores. This meant a significant capital investment for this guy. At first things were grand and a decent wholesale price was agreed upon. Well Wall Mart comes back year after year and says "we can't pay as much this year." To the point where the guy was losing money. The guys company finally went bankrupt in the end.
    One of the cable stations did a multi part series following a couple who were courting WM and every few months kept changing their product to meet the demands of a WM buyer. They too invested a small fortune only to find out in the end that they could not make any money with WM.

    I suspect this is a oft told story.
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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Over Thanksgiving I heard a story about this guy who started a company selling jalapeno poppers to bars, local stores and what not. Wal Mart got wind of the product and over a few years convinced the guy to ramp up production to supply this product to their stores. This meant a significant capital investment for this guy. At first things were grand and a decent wholesale price was agreed upon. Well Wall Mart comes back year after year and says "we can't pay as much this year." To the point where the guy was losing money. The guys company finally went bankrupt in the end.
    DAMN EVIL WAL MART! The guy took a risk, and it failed, those damn dirty wal-mart folks.
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    Re: Community Builds A Store and Keeps Walmarts Out

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    One of the cable stations did a multi part series following a couple who were courting WM and every few months kept changing their product to meet the demands of a WM buyer. They too invested a small fortune only to find out in the end that they could not make any money with WM.

    I suspect this is a oft told story.
    Walmart needs to stop trying to sell products at the lowest price possible. They do nothing but market to poor people who can't afford to shop any where else, and like I said, this means I have to see and interact with these low class bottomfeeders.

    Maybe we can put all of the poor people in a city, call it Walmartville, and that way we won't have to look at them, and Walmart won't "interfere with the scenery" in our nice town.

    I mean good grief, Walmart runs a massive 3.77% profit margin, who the hell do they think they are, the Rockefellers??!!!!

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