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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Harry, I'd like to you explain how the actual Tea Party had justification to destroy private property and capital and succeed in shutting down an entire city port, but the OWS people have no justification to block a sidewalk.
    Neither had justification.
    Don't think I'll side with you by pointing out a part of history that helped initiate the founding of our nation.
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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

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    Why would you want to use the term rape not in reference to any type of sexual assault or nonvoluntary sexual contact?

    Thats just disgusting.
    Rape is just spontaneous sex. No big deal.

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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Rape is just spontaneous sex. No big deal.

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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    SheWolf, I saw the civil rights movement live. I lived through it. Comparing what these OWS protesters are doing to the civil rights movement, where a dozen courageous people would go into a white's only diner and wait for the police to come in and club them bloody, is almost insulting. Seriously. If you believe in OWS's tactics, by all means support them. But it really is upsetting to have it compared to a movement in which people were routinely rounded up by law enforcement and lynched, where live rounds were fired into peaceful protesters and dogs sicced on them. I saw this. I lived in that time. It's not the same. It's not the same at all.
    This Occupy nonsense is just silly. It isn't about anything real, it's just organized rioting for the **** of it. Follow the money. Liberal use of tear gas should be employed to make it go away.

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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    LOL, Mr. I, it's obvious you've already decided it was brutality.
    Congrats! You once again show how you are horrible at reading comprehension.

    I also said "Was this lady stupid for going to a protest where there was known police brutality? Hell yes."

    I acknowledged that both parties were at fault and that was it.
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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Neither had justification.
    Don't think I'll side with you by pointing out a part of history that helped initiate the founding of our nation.
    I would disagree. It has justification, that justification is bringing attention to the issue and hopefully the change they demand. If the civil rights movement or people involved with Boston Tea Party just wrote letters and didn't make any noise, sat quietly by and expected something to change suddenly, nothing would have happened. The Boston Tea Party set off a war, but you want to say that it had no justification. Every major political struggle in this country and in the history of the world has had the same all or nothing attitude, the willingness to go to jail, to be injured, to lose a lot and die even if it means winning a little; The Shirtwaist Factory labor rights protest, women's rights movement, current protests in Iran, Syria, and the Middle East, etc. Sometimes people say violence and war is necessary, but we are not even discussing violence... we are simply discussing blocking side walks and intersections at this point, and that is bringing attention to their political cause. It's the nature of political movements and massive protests, and is really is not big at all. It's not a big deal in comparison to every serious political movement. If this movement is going to have dramatic effect on our country, then I'd expect to see a lot more action and violence occur than just blocked off side walks and kids getting pepper sprayed in the face.
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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    If they're blocking innocent people from going about their daily lives and refuse to leave, I have no problem with the use of pepper spray, civil rights people or not.
    It should be expected.
    Also the civil rights experienced a lot more than pepper spray, and it was expected but they kept protesting... Again, I am not trying to compare the OWS to the Civil Rights movement because they are not the same. The Civil Rights movement was a lot more violent and segregation and Wall St/greedy corps are entirely different issues, but I find your attitude to be fascinating, and I have to ask, where is line when it comes to protesters interfering with the daily lives of "innocent" people? At pepper spray? Police should have the right to just go pepper spray every protester interfering with the daily lives of other people in the modern society? And if pepper spray wasn't invented in the time of the Civil Rights movement, then what been acceptable to use instead?

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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Also the civil rights experienced a lot more than pepper spray, and it was expected but they kept protesting... Again, I am not trying to compare the OWS to the Civil Rights movement because they are not the same. The Civil Rights movement was a lot more violent and segregation and Wall St/greedy corps are entirely different issues, but I find your attitude to be fascinating, and I have to ask, where is line when it comes to protesters interfering with the daily lives of "innocent" people? At pepper spray? Police should have the right to just go pepper spray every protester interfering with the daily lives of other people in the modern society? And if pepper spray wasn't invented in the time of the Civil Rights movement, then what been acceptable to use instead?
    I have a strong distaste for those who don't respect the most basic tenets of what a society is built upon, a small amount of mutual respect.
    You don't get in my way and I in turn will not get in yours.

    When someone violates this, they have earned the scorn of others and if they refuse to relent, then the state has the duty and authority to remove them.

    Basically, you can protest all you want, as long as you don't get in my way.
    You can't abide by this, then you deserve what you get.

    To add: Why should a protester have the ability to block the flow of others, not participating?
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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I have a strong distaste for those who don't respect the most basic tenets of what a society is built upon, a small amount of mutual respect.
    You don't get in my way and I in turn will not get in yours.

    When someone violates this, they have earned the scorn of others and if they refuse to relent, then the state has the duty and authority to remove them.

    Basically, you can protest all you want, as long as you don't get in my way.
    You can't abide by this, then you deserve what you get.

    To add: Why should a protester have the ability to block the flow of others, not participating?
    Protesting the government may interfere with your life, but so does government policy... protesting is often the reaction of government inference in our lives. On the other hand, you can have non protesting people interfering with your life and crowding your streets and obstructing your walkways too, but we don't simply go around clubbing them or pepper spraying them in face.

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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Protesting the government may interfere with your life, but so does government policy... protesting is often the reaction of government inference in our lives. On the other hand, you can have non protesting people interfering with your life and crowding your streets and obstructing your walkways too, but we don't simply go around clubbing them or pepper spraying them in face.
    That doesn't explain how it's right to prevent people from going about their lives because you deem your protest to be more important.
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