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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Just a question, why is this anyone's fault?
    That's what I'd like to know, especially since not one of us has the full story.
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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    That's what I'd like to know, especially since not one of us has the full story.
    Hell stuff like this can happen, even if various groups are acting nominally without any intent or neglect on anyone's part.

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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    I think I'm alone when I find this EXTREMELY SAD.

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    Wow - and I read a few comments in this thread about it being a blessing in disguise . . . that reminded me of when I was pregnant at age 18 and miscarried - that's what my Mom said. . . made me sick to my stomach that she was able to find a positive thing at all about something so tragic.
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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Your comment proves some points. Some see the woman as having no personal responsibilty in what happened and its all someone elses fault.
    For some of my comments, I had no knowledge she was a liberal. Are you are saying all protesters at the protest event are liberals?

    Guess we should only speak our views if it agrees with you. Guess it is one way to not be a hack.

    That said, I feel sorry for the woman. Hope she received the medical attention she needed.
    She was pregnant and went to a protest. I have seen pregnant women at protests before. I have seen children at rallies with their parents, especially those pro life march on DC rallies. This women went to an OWS protest and didn't expect the police to beat her and pepper spray her, god forbid a pregnant woman going to any political event with that attitude...

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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    And neither do you, but somehow you know anything she says must just be the gospel truth? Certainly no motive for lying here. LOL

    It's funny, the lady was supposedly 3 months pregnant and homeless but the miscarriage is caused by the pepper spray?
    ROFL, that's too funny, pepper spray causing miscarriage.
    It would be like saying getting hit by a sheet of paper causes death by loss of blood
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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    While this is a tragic incident, the very fact that this mother went to a protest known for violence and was three months pregnant speaks in volumes about her.
    Her stupidity can be compared to as playing sports in a battle.
    MaggieD's post which is post #30 is absolute gold. It just demonstrates her stupidity (I mean, the mother's not Maggie's)
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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    "They diagnosed that I was having a miscarriage. They said the damage was from the kick and that the pepper spray got to it [the fetus], too," she said.

    "I was worried about it [when I joined the protests], but I didn't know it would be this bad. I didn't know that a cop would murder a baby that's not born yet... I am trying to get lawyers."
    Sounds more like a propagandist story than reality. I would like to know just how the hospital would know that the cause of the alleged miscarriage was caused by the kick and not something else. They would have had to do a autopsy to determine the cause of death.

    Oh wait I just googled her name and came up with this Flaws noted in Occupy Seattle protester's miscarriage story - seattlepi.com

    The night Fox was pepper sprayed and claimed she was kicked, Fox and other Occupy Seattle protesters told seattlepi.com she was two months pregnant. At the Friday Occupy Seattle rally outside the Seattle Municipal Tower – Nov. 18 – Fox told seattlepi.com, "I'm three months pregnant today."
    Fox also claimed in September that she was three months pregnant, according to a police report obtained by seattlepi.com.


    Fox "said she is three months pregnant with Johannes' baby and began crying when he was arrested," the report reads. "(Fox) began holding her stomach and was screaming it hurt."
    Fox was treated at the scene and transported to Harborview Medical Center by a fire department aid unit. She wasn't charged in the incident, but the man she said was the baby's father was charged with first-degree criminal trespass, assault and false reporting.

    And there is this
    According to the report, Fox told an officer she was three months pregnant and began crying when arrested.

    "(Fox) began holding her stomach and was screaming when she was arrested," read the report. (Fox) was treated at the scene and transported to HMC."

    The incident calls into question whether Fox was telling the truth about losing a child after being pepper sprayed and hit by police.

    When asked by KIRO FM about the police report, she denied remembering the incident. Then, Fox changed her story and said that the "police report must have been wrong," because she told police she was one month pregnant at the time.

    Fox's former foster mother, Lark Stebbins, told the Seattle Times Fox is a "compulsive liar" and a "wannabe drama queen."
    Inconsistencies found in protestor 'miscarriage' - Seattle News - MyNorthwest.com

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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    This is unbelievable!!!

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    A woman who was pepper sprayed during during a raid on Occupy Seattle last week is blaming police after she miscarried Sunday.

    Jennifer Fox, 19, told The Stranger that she had been with the Occupy protests since they started in Westlake Park. She said she was homeless and three months pregnant, but felt the need to join activists during their march last Tuesday.

    "I was standing in the middle of the crowd when the police started moving in," Fox recalled. "I was screaming, 'I am pregnant, I am pregnant. Let me through. I am trying to get out.'"

    She claimed that police hit her in the stomach twice before pepper spraying her. One officer struck her with his foot and another pushed his bicycle into her. It wasn't clear if either of those incidents were intentional."Right before I turned, both cops lifted their pepper spray and sprayed me. My eyes puffed up and my eyes swelled shut," Fox said.

    Seattle Post-Intelligencer photographer Joshua Trujillo snapped a picture of Fox in apparent agony as another activist carried her to an ambulance.Seattle fire department spokesman Kyle Moore told The Washington Post that a 19-year-old pregnant woman was among those that were examined by paramedics.

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    She didn't miscarry, she had an involuntary abortion. Happens all the time to millions of women, most of whom never even realized they were pregnant. This is like someone accidentally clipping your fingernail; it's just a clump of cells.

    I don't know why you're attaching all this emotional hyperbole to your rhetoric, but I'm sure your slippery-slope will become obvious soon enough.
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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Rut roh. This is what I was arguing with others about. It's all fun and games until someone has an asthma attack and dies, or some lady has a miscarriage. I don't suppose conservatives will much care, even though they are "pro-life" or whatever (since they seem to think pepper spraying large groups of people who are sitting down is funny), but the city of Seattle will start to care as the lawsuits pour in.
    If you can't do the TIME, don't do the CRIME. She made a cardinal error by associating with these worthless wastes of flesh and oxygen to begin with, and now she (and her child) have paid the price. Maybe she'll be a little more careful what bags of feces she spends her time with from now on.

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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    This is unbelievable!!!

    Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed | Video Cafe


    A woman who was pepper sprayed during during a raid on Occupy Seattle last week is blaming police after she miscarried Sunday.

    Jennifer Fox, 19, told The Stranger that she had been with the Occupy protests since they started in Westlake Park. She said she was homeless and three months pregnant, but felt the need to join activists during their march last Tuesday.

    "I was standing in the middle of the crowd when the police started moving in," Fox recalled. "I was screaming, 'I am pregnant, I am pregnant. Let me through. I am trying to get out.'"

    She claimed that police hit her in the stomach twice before pepper spraying her. One officer struck her with his foot and another pushed his bicycle into her. It wasn't clear if either of those incidents were intentional."Right before I turned, both cops lifted their pepper spray and sprayed me. My eyes puffed up and my eyes swelled shut," Fox said.

    Seattle Post-Intelligencer photographer Joshua Trujillo snapped a picture of Fox in apparent agony as another activist carried her to an ambulance.Seattle fire department spokesman Kyle Moore told The Washington Post that a 19-year-old pregnant woman was among those that were examined by paramedics.

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    She should be charged with child abuse, negligent homicide and tossed in jail. Idiot woman pregnant fighting with police.
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