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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    I'm cynical, I admit it. A homeless, pregnant teenager is at high risk for a miscarriage from the get-go. Inadequate food, no shelter, most likely little or no pre-natal care. Even in the best cases, a significant percentage of first pregnancies end in miscarriage. Now we have a homeless, pregnant teenager attending a protest that has already had police clashes in the past weeks, allows herself to be positioned in the middle of a mob upon which police are fast approaching... incredibly dumb.

    Then she miscarries nearly a full week after the incident, and her first thought is, "lawyer". Her second thought is probably that after the lawsuit, she won't be homeless any more.

    Yeah, I'm skeptical. If she truly wanted that baby, it's tragic that she lost it. However, in my opinion, if she truly wanted that baby she wouldn't have put herself in that position to begin with.

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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    According to conservatives:

    If you are pregnant and you go to a protest, if anything crazy goes down, it's your own fault if you miscarry.

    Good to know!
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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Oh, I totally agree with you. We know nothing. Vance, I view some behaviors as more risky than others. Should a woman be able to walk home alone safely from a single's bar half-loaded at 4 AM? Of course. Is that risky, You bet. Bad choice? You bet. I'm saying this lady made a poor choice, that's all. If a friend of mine did that who was 3 months pregnant, I'd think she'd lost her marbles. I think this lady was an idiot. But do I personally believe a copper kicked her in the stomach a few times? Absolutely not. Do I believe she was intentionally run into by a bicycle/motorcycle? Absolutely not. The only thing I'm most sure of is that she probably got sprayed with pepper spray. Was that a predictable outcome? Probably not. But one could say that anyone participating in these protests puts their lily white on the line in that regard....even if the pepper spray comes from blow-by. Risky behavior.
    I agree...bad choice...but for probably a lot of different reasons. It should be apparent that im not fan of the OW movement, but the simple reality is that over the last few months, there havent been THAT many run ins with the police at the events. I suspect there are a significant number that actually believe (and yes...I find them goofy and misguided) in their cause but arent expecting a riot. Some have been caught on film stating they just want to be a part of SOMETHING. Im OK with that...hell...at least they are being honest.

    If this happened as it was presented, then tragic. I really hope that people pursue this. Of all the pics and all the videos...THIS is the one I want to see. I want to see signed medical releases so the doctors can describe what caused what. The more I read of the story, the more I think it is bull****. But...benefit of doubt...let the truth out.
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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    According to conservatives:

    If you are pregnant and you go to a protest, if anything crazy goes down, it's your own fault if you miscarry.

    Good to know!
    According to some who have liberal views.
    If you are pregnant and you go to a protest, if anything crazy goes down, it is not your fault, you have no personal responsibilities, do what ever you want.
    Good to know.
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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    According to some who have liberal views.
    If you are pregnant and you go to a protest, if anything crazy goes down, it is not your fault, you have no personal responsibilities, do what ever you want.
    Good to know.
    Yeah, I would agree. There are very few instances in which I would say someone deserves to miscarry and that it is their fault.
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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Well hell...lets just go for the trifecta...what difference does it make. No harm...no foul...all she lost was a foetus...fautus...fetus...a zygote...a non-person. Big deal...a woman that cant take care of herself lost a malignant tissue clump. Maybe the police did her a favor...

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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post

    Then she miscarries nearly a full week after the incident, and her first thought is, "lawyer". Her second thought is probably that after the lawsuit, she won't be homeless any more.
    Actually, if it was me, I would sue also. It's kind of an obvious response, really.

    In the end, while her choices may not have been appropriate, and while there are hundreds of other reasons for a miscarriage, it does tell you a little about the force being used here. It also makes you wonder if all of it is really necessary.


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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why was she even there? I would think the safety of her baby would take priority over her politics. She had to know that the chance of a dust up was purdy good.

    Sounds like she has the parental skills of a ****ing house cat.

    This is prime example of how the occu-tards want to be relieved all their pesonal responsibility.
    ... and finally the compassionate pro lifers have chimed in with a response..

    Now let me get this right, abortion is murder but cops allegedly beating a pregnant woman in the stomach and pepper spraying prior to experiencing a miscarriage is ok, because it's her fault the cops hit her... ok, thanks.

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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Actually, if it was me, I would sue also. It's kind of an obvious response, really.

    In the end, while her choices may not have been appropriate, and while there are hundreds of other reasons for a miscarriage, it does tell you a little about the force being used here. It also makes you wonder if all of it is really necessary.
    Can YOU help us out with the visual since she at no time states she was on the ground, down on the gorund, got knocked to the ground, and was in fact allegedly up and turning just before she got kicked in the stomach and then pepper sprayed. Im trying to piece it together...its not working out.

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    Re: Pregnant #OccupySeattle Protester Miscarries After Being Kicked, Pepper Sprayed

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    I know from the article that she is pregnant and homeless and put herself in a situation which represented a high possibility of damage to her unborn child. Doesn't demonstrate good prenatal care or concern for the future of the child.
    Do you have proof she put herself in that position, and that national economy didn't put her in that situation?

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