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    Re: UC Davis Studentsí Eerie, Powerful Protest Against Pepper-Spray Chancellor

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Intimidation or not, they are free to do as they did. It was a good use of protest. She was the one that called in the cops, yes? The cops which acted in such a manner against the student body, yes? There is anger directed at her for her role and response, yes? That anger being a result of her actions, yes?
    Yes, they are free to act as they did. Never said they weren't. As to her somehow being at fault? Nonsense. If there's blame to be placed, it lies in one of two places:

    #1 -- At the feet of the police officer who used pepper spray. (If it's found that that action was over the top.) or...
    #2 -- At the feet of the protesters who disobeyed police orders to disperse.

    Protesters are not allowed to hold institutions hostage to their demands. Period.
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    Re: UC Davis Studentsí Eerie, Powerful Protest Against Pepper-Spray Chancellor

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Dragon, I don't believe it would require shooting more than one or two of them before the rest would run like scared sheep.
    Not if some of them were zombies.
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    Re: UC Davis Studentsí Eerie, Powerful Protest Against Pepper-Spray Chancellor

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    That would have been absolutely fine by me. I was taught from a very early age that you do exactly what a LEO tells you to do, when he tells you to do it, and IF you believe there is a problem, you deal with it AFTERWARDS via complaint, suit, etc... However, the moment you fail to comply with an even minimally reasonable demand by a LEO, you deserve whatever violent response that officer chooses to impart upon you; whether it's OC/Pepper spray, a taser, a club, or a gun.
    You need to speak to the Angry American about this one. Fact is, it is constitutionally permissible to defend yourself and others, EVEN against brutal police action.

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    Re: UC Davis Studentsí Eerie, Powerful Protest Against Pepper-Spray Chancellor

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    We gave up on allowing SOCIETY to limit how we are allowed to act, so the Government is really the only reasonable option left to control the citizenry and prevent a total decline into immorality. Unless you've got another group you think can do the job.
    Move to North Korea Tigger or go live somewhere in a brutal dictatorship and then report back to me on how "moral" is the society. If you don't change your Hitlerian principles, then please die.

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    Re: UC Davis Studentsí Eerie, Powerful Protest Against Pepper-Spray Chancellor

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Given how displeased the mob was with her, and its size, anyone would be intimidated.... especially given that OWS has more than a little history of violent or criminal acts perpetrated by some members.

    This is mob intimidation. Having several hundred people displeased with you enough to sit around for hours waiting for your appearance just so they can give you the silent treatment has to make you realize how easy it would be for that mob to tear you to pieces if they so chose.

    Okay, so they didn't choose to be violent today, how lovely... that's no guarantor of her safety.

    I know what fear body language looks like, and she was scared.
    Gun-toting Tea Party activists rally in Montana | Reuters

    But Tea Partiers showing up at statehouses with guns ISN'T intimidation?

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    Re: UC Davis Studentsí Eerie, Powerful Protest Against Pepper-Spray Chancellor

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Yes, they are free to act as they did. Never said they weren't. As to her somehow being at fault? Nonsense. If there's blame to be placed, it lies in one of two places:

    #1 -- At the feet of the police officer who used pepper spray. (If it's found that that action was over the top.) or...
    #2 -- At the feet of the protesters who disobeyed police orders to disperse.

    Protesters are not allowed to hold institutions hostage to their demands. Period.
    Tell that to the Republicans elected to Congress who held this nation's credit rating hostage for their own purposes. Period.

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    Re: UC Davis Studentsí Eerie, Powerful Protest Against Pepper-Spray Chancellor

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Gun-toting Tea Party activists rally in Montana | Reuters

    But Tea Partiers showing up at statehouses with guns ISN'T intimidation?
    From the story :
    The demonstrators had received special permission in advance to bring their weapons, unloaded and secured, to the state Capitol grounds for the rally.
    Who exactly are they going to intimidate with weapons that are unloaded and everyone of importance knows they are unloaded?

    Read the story next time.

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    Re: UC Davis Studentsí Eerie, Powerful Protest Against Pepper-Spray Chancellor

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    From the story :

    Who exactly are they going to intimidate with weapons that are unloaded and everyone of importance knows they are unloaded?

    Read the story next time.
    So sitting silently is still more threatening than standing around with weapons (loaded or otherwise)?

    Pussies.

    Let's be afraid of people sitting down - because they're obviously a threat. But people with weapons roaming around aren't intimidating. An unloaded shotgun is still going to do a lot more damage to most skulls than a fist from someone sitting down.

    I'm amazed at how readily those who would practically KILL for 2nd Amendment rights are so ready to ask people to give up their 1st Amendment rights.

    How many conservatives on this site bitch about ANY restriction on gun rights, but now argue that Free Speech rights are to be practices at the whim of the government? The number is uncountable.

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    Re: UC Davis Studentsí Eerie, Powerful Protest Against Pepper-Spray Chancellor

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    Fact is, it is constitutionally permissible to defend yourself and others, EVEN against brutal police action.
    Yes it is permissible to defend oneself, even against the police. However, when you do resist the police, you must be prepared to pay the price for doing so.


    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    Move to North Korea Tigger or go live somewhere in a brutal dictatorship and then report back to me on how "moral" is the society. If you don't change your Hitlerian principles, then please die.
    Actually I'd be more likely to try somewhere like Iran or Saudi Arabia. The weather and the socio-political philosophies are much more to my liking. As for the dying thing.... You're more than welcome to come and try to give me a hand with that.

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    Re: UC Davis Studentsí Eerie, Powerful Protest Against Pepper-Spray Chancellor

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    .How many conservatives on this site bitch about ANY restriction on gun rights, but now argue that Free Speech rights are to be practices at the whim of the government? The number is uncountable.
    Count me among them. That's because the right protected under the Second Amendment is exponentially more important than any of those protected under the First Amendment. In part because the Second is what protects the First and also because it is only through violence, or the threat thereof that human beings truly change.

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