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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Thus why I used the "correct me if I'm wrong" part. I don't know, but iirc Obama was talking of how he wanted illegal aliens to be able to vote, which would undoubtedly lead to a swell in voters for the democratic side.
    You are wrong. He has not said or advocated any such thing. And that should be obvious. It's clearly just another idiot rightwing urban myth about Obama.
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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    If this is in opposition to Citizen's United, it's either idiotic grandstanding or Deutch has no idea what he's talking about. Corporate donations to campaigns are still illegal. Citizens United only dealt with corporations' ability to advocate or criticize certain candidates. Since the First Amendment is a negative right, it doesn't matter whether or not corporations have the same rights as everyone else or not. The Amendment only says what government is not allowed to do, including restricting speech. Citizens United would still probably stand. This proposed amendment does not do anything more than what a generous interpretations of the Commerce and Necessary and Proper Clauses already do.
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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Thus why I used the "correct me if I'm wrong" part. I don't know, but iirc Obama was talking of how he wanted illegal aliens to be able to vote, which would undoubtedly lead to a swell in voters for the democratic side.



    I don't know for sure what the facts are. It's doubtful that any of us have the real facts. I would say I've heard that more corporations donate to the right for elections than to the left, however unions do the same thing the left.



    It would seem reasonable, but then again I don't have the knowledge to weigh all of this in the balance. How do you think banning both $$$ sources would effect elections, CT?
    Both sides take corporate money.

    They just get it from different "teams".

    Highly portable capital tends to back republicans.

    Capital that depends on American paychecks for its profits tends to back dems.

    Oil is an international market. Tending republican.

    Insurance companies depend on paychecks. Tending dem.

    Follow the money. Its ALWAYS the answer nowadays.
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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Did not know that.

    In light of that I guess I don't have a problem with it, though I don't know what other angles can be played from this banning.

    Which party would benefit the most, I wonder, seeing as a lot of liberals/socialists/progressives seem to be enthralled with this idea.
    An interesting thing I've noted is that a standard response from the right to discussion of this issue is "would you be ok if union money, NAACP, etc was also banned?

    Notice how many on the left say "yeah. Them too."
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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Democrats love sticking their tongues in the assholes of business and tossing their salad just as much as the republicans do. The whole democrats are for the poor working class and republicans are for the rich is nothing more than just a myth.
    Yeah, its just different businesses.

    It is in the interest of an auto insurance company that people be able to afford cars. Therefore, they tend to back dems.

    That's why the ACA was nothing but the abolition of two practices that the public was going to demand they stop anyway(pre-existing conditions and dropping customers as soon as they get sick, by any means necessary) in exchange for millions of new customers from the mandate.
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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    So do you want to limit the amount anyone can spend on a lawyer so that trials are fair too?
    Might help, considering the disparity in justice received by a poor kid and a rich kid arrested for identical crimes.
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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Not if it was passed as a Constitutional Amendment.
    SC ruled that corporate donations are protected under the 1st Amendment. IMO, it's a bad idea to start passing constitutional amendments that override the 1st Amendment.
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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics | OlogyCan this please get passed? I mean please for the sake of god! I gurantee however its probably going to get held up by dems, and republicans alike, but please if their is a god please come down and somehow pass this

    Thoughts?
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    Is there anything in the amendment about union money going to political campaigns? If there isn't, then there is something very, very wrong here.
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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Both sides take corporate money.
    No they don't. It's illegal. Did you read the thread?
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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    SC ruled that corporate donations are protected under the 1st Amendment. IMO, it's a bad idea to start passing constitutional amendments that override the 1st Amendment.
    It didn't rule that. Corporate donations to candidates are still illegal. Corporate spending on speech is what was ruled legal.
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