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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Which party would benefit the most, I wonder, seeing as a lot of liberals/socialists/progressives seem to be enthralled with this idea.
    Both parties would benefit immensely. As it is now, politicians are focused on obtaining funds in order to beat their opponents more than they are on policy and leadership.
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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Which party would benefit the most, I wonder, seeing as a lot of liberals/socialists/progressives seem to be enthralled with this idea.
    The electorate.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Did not know that.

    In light of that I guess I don't have a problem with it, though I don't know what other angles can be played from this banning.

    Which party would benefit the most, I wonder, seeing as a lot of liberals/socialists/progressives seem to be enthralled with this idea.
    There is no doubt that Democrats would benefit the most. After all, the Republicans are famous as the party of Big Money, i.e., Fatcats, Wall Street, bankers, oil companies and the military.

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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    There is no doubt that Democrats would benefit the most. After all, the Republicans are famous as the party of Big Money, i.e., Fatcats, Wall Street, bankers, oil companies and the military.
    Blinders is another reason it likely will not get done.

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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    There is no doubt that Democrats would benefit the most. After all, the Republicans are famous as the party of Big Money, i.e., Fatcats, Wall Street, bankers, oil companies and the military.
    Democrats love sticking their tongues in the assholes of business and tossing their salad just as much as the republicans do. The whole democrats are for the poor working class and republicans are for the rich is nothing more than just a myth.
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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    A corporation is a separate entity from the people who are a part of it. That's exactly the point of a corporation.
    How so?Looking at the definition of a corporation it is pretty clear that a corporation is a group of people.
    Corporation | Define Corporation at Dictionary.com
    oun
    1.
    an association of individuals, created by law or under authority of law, having a continuous existence independent of the existences of its members, and powers and liabilities distinct from those of its members.
    2.
    ( initial capital letter ) the group of principal officials of a borough or other municipal division in England.
    3.
    any group of persons united or regarded as united in one body.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Democrats love sticking their tongues in the assholes of business and tossing their salad just as much as the republicans do. The whole democrats are for the poor working class and republicans are for the rich is nothing more than just a myth.
    I certainly agree both carter to and appease business, and both let money talk all too much. And there really isn't as much of a difference as many of us would like between the two, no matter whihc side your on. But I wouldn't go so far as to call it a myth. You are much more likely to get some policy favoring the working class with democrats than republicans. They won't go near far enough, or make the really bold stands, as the money will never allow them to. But there is a small difference.

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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How so?
    Start here instead

    http://www.businessdictionary.com/de...al-person.html
    Entity (such as a firm) other than a natural person (human being) created by law and recognized as a legal entity having distinct identity, legal personality, and duties and rights. Also called juristic person or legal person. See also body corporate.
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    corporation legal definition of corporation. corporation synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.
    One benefit is that a corporation's liability for damages or debts is limited to its assets, so the shareholders and officers are protected from personal claims, unless they commit fraud.


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    artificial person legal definition of artificial person. artificial person synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.
    A legal entity that is not a human being but for certain purposes is considered by virtue of statute to be a natural person.
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    They have an existence independent of the people who run them and those who own them. That's the whole purpose of forming a corporation rather than a proprietorship.
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    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Practically speaking, how do you do that and still be able to communicate with the voter?
    Well it's kind of like a NASCAR race, you make it about the racing team's ability by giving everyone basically the same car. By setting the limit on campaign money, each candidate has to be creative in using the money to get elected.
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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    To me it seems like another movement to cripple the elections in favor of the left. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn'nt there also a tried movement by the left to allow illegal aliens to vote, in which they'd primarily vote for the left?
    No that was dead people.
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