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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I'd like them to ban political party money from politics.

    The bill seems to just ban "for profit" corporations.
    It really won't end up doing a darn thing except lead to the creation of a lot of new non-profits to lobby the govt.
    Good point. I'm not picking on the example I use, it's just the first example that comes to mind.

    Right now just the opposite is the law. Non profits are restricted concerning political spending. Planned Parenthood got around this by creating a PAC. As you note, corporations would have to be allowed to do the same thing or all would have to be banned.

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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Congress represents the People, not non-human entities.

    So sure, forbid corporations, unions, businesses, & non-profits from contributing to political campaigns.

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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

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    Read more @: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics | OlogyCan this please get passed? I mean please for the sake of god! I gurantee however its probably going to get held up by dems, and republicans alike, but please if their is a god please come down and somehow pass this

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    It won't do anything. The only way any sort of legitimacy is going to return to politics is to ban all contributions. Politics needs to be paid out of the public purse. It is the only possibility I can see to get it free of corruption and for the people.
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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    yeah.. i'm gonna listen to a guy wanting to ban corporate money while he takes unions money....

    nope...sorry, i'm not gonna join a two-faced schmuck in his efforts to kill an element of free speech.

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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics | OlogyCan this please get passed? I mean please for the sake of god! I gurantee however its probably going to get held up by dems, and republicans alike, but please if their is a god please come down and somehow pass this

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    You have the right to peaceably assemble regardless if that assembly is a union,corporation, religious group,special interest group,political group or what ever. Your right to free speech,freedom of religious,free press and and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances do not go away just because you choose to peaceably assemble. Last time I checked the 1st amendment does not say you can only exercise only one of these rights at a time. I know lib-tards like to utter the BS line that corporations are not persons but the truth is corporations are an assembly of people. A corporation making a political contribution is no different than the occutards making a political contribution.
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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Okay - so we ban corporate money. We ban union money. We ban all group money but individual citizen contributions.

    How do we finance elections?
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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Okay - so we ban corporate money. We ban union money. We ban all group money but individual citizen contributions.

    How do we finance elections?
    I guess they'll have to come down in price.
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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You have the right to peaceably assemble regardless if that assembly is a union,corporation, religious group,special interest group,political group or what ever. Your right to free speech,freedom of religious,free press and and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances do not go away just because you choose to peaceably assemble. Last time I checked the 1st amendment does not say you can only exercise only one of these rights at a time. I know lib-tards like to utter the BS line that corporations are not persons but the truth is corporations are an assembly of people. A corporation making a political contribution is no different than the occutards making a political contribution.
    A corporation is a separate entity from the people who are a part of it. That's exactly the point of a corporation.

    There's no need to give these fictional entities the same rights as human beings. Removing privileges given to these artificial persons is not the same as denying the people who are a part of corporations their rights as individuals.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    A corporation is a separate entity from the people who are a part of it. That's exactly the point of a corporation.

    There's no need to give these fictional entities the same rights as human beings. Removing privileges given to these artificial persons is not the same as denying the people who are a part of corporations their rights as individuals.
    That is exactly correct and as long as the fox is guarding the henhouse this bill has no chance. Noone will vote against it, it will just disappear. Tabled, shuffled, never to appear again. Nothing to see here. That's because the people don't have any actual power.

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    Re: Rep. Deutch Presents Amendment To Ban Corporate Money From Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I guess they'll have to come down in price.
    Practically speaking, how do you do that and still be able to communicate with the voter?
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