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    Re: Major profitable corporations are paying negative income taxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    Actually this list of demands just confirms everyone's view of the movement. No basis in reality, extreme leftism, complete misunderstanding of economics, and a huge sense of entitlement. Demand 11 was good enough for a hearty laugh.
    Extreme leftism? Sounds like the envision a social democratic state like Germany, or France.. Its not that extreme at all....


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    Re: Major profitable corporations are paying negative income taxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    What the hell, you seriously don't realize that many of these companies have bought and paid for a tax code that benefits them most?
    So? It's still Congress that wrote the tax code. Going around assigning blame does nothing. Congress is where you fix the problem. Corporations don't care if you sit around and complain that they're rich.
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    Re: Major profitable corporations are paying negative income taxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Extreme leftism? Sounds like the envision a social democratic state like Germany, or France.. Its not that extreme at all....
    Really Germany has:

    Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
    Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
    Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all.
    Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

    Are you really trying to defend these demands? If you are, do you think you will have any credibility when discussing politics and the economy from here on out?
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    Re: Major profitable corporations are paying negative income taxes.

    I find it interesting that this thread is nearing 100 posts but the thread concerning Corzine stealing who knows how much money gets very little in the way of replies.

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    Re: Major profitable corporations are paying negative income taxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I find it interesting that this thread is nearing 100 posts but the thread concerning Corzine stealing who knows how much money gets very little in the way of replies.
    Link to the thread and I will happily contribute my opinion. In the meantime, try to stay on topic and quit hijacking threads.
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    Re: Major profitable corporations are paying negative income taxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    So? It's still Congress that wrote the tax code. Going around assigning blame does nothing. Congress is where you fix the problem. Corporations don't care if you sit around and complain that they're rich.
    It's a lot more complicated than that. It's not "vote in different congress members." The new ones will be just as dependent on corporate money, too. Get the corporate money out of elections, and then politicians will actually be answerable to voters. And quite often, lobbyists write the laws... that is, representatives of the corporations. The major networks wrote almost the entirety of the Communications Act of 1934, which informs the FCC and a lot of their activities to this day. The centralization of control into the hands of corporations is the cause of a great many of our economic problems. The only way to combat this is to take their money out of the equation.
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    Re: Major profitable corporations are paying negative income taxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    What the hell, you seriously don't realize that many of these companies have bought and paid for a tax code that benefits them most?
    What's to be accomplished by having a tax code that hurts corporations?
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    Re: Major profitable corporations are paying negative income taxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    Really Germany has:

    Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
    Actually Germany's doesnt have a minmum wage on law because the wage is set by sector....

    Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
    Thats a EU thing...

    Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all.
    They do?

    Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.
    Germany has 3 credit report agencies...


    Are you really trying to defend these demands?
    I really dont see how open borders, debt forgiveness, and outlawing credit agencies would make you socialist...
    Are those like in the official socialist party platform? I mean even if Germany had these things how would that make you socialist?
    Are you that ignorant?

    If you are, do you think you will have any credibility when discussing politics and the economy from here on out?
    I mean have the **** you just made up in your last post...


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    Re: Major profitable corporations are paying negative income taxes.

    When did I claim any of these were socialist? These were the demands you posted and subsequently defended. You then went on to claim they weren't "that radical" and that social democracies like Germany had them. In your latest response you seem to forgot what you originally said and then argued against yourself that Germany didn't have them. I haven't mentioned the word socialism once, you seem to gravitate towards the concept.

    I mean have the **** you just made up in your last post...
    Please point to any **** I have "made up". My last post was quoting your list of demands. I said you wouldn't have any credibility if you honestly believed in, and defended the list of demands you posted.
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    Re: Major profitable corporations are paying negative income taxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    No, I don't confuse any of these. The difference between these demands and popular democratic positions are the level of support they lend these issues. You argue that the demands overstate the levels of support that are popular among the Democratic party. You're cherry-picking. You use the more moderate positions to paint the entire party with and dismiss attempts to use more radical positions to paint the same picture.

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    It is not cherry picking. It is called being accurate and not letting the enemy paint a false picture of you so they can demonize both you and your actual views.

    Thank you for demonstrating that.
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