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    Re: Major profitable corporations are paying negative income taxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It is not cherry picking. It is called being accurate and not letting the enemy paint a false picture of you so they can demonize both you and your actual views.

    Thank you for demonstrating that.
    The cognitive dissonance must be killing you.
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    Re: Major profitable corporations are paying negative income taxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    When did I claim any of these were socialist?
    You seem to implied that when you said this: "Extreme leftism? Sounds like the envision a social democratic state like Germany, or France.. Its not that extreme at all...."

    These were the demands you posted and subsequently defended.
    Naa those were the demands some in the occupy movement posted...
    I have something more of worker control of industry...

    You then went on to claim they weren't "that radical" and that social democracies like Germany had them.
    See you picked out 3 things, and tried to imply that to Germany when 3/4 things you tried to imply were false...
    Just being factually accurate here.

    In your latest response you seem to forgot what you originally said and then argued against yourself that Germany didn't have them. I haven't mentioned the word socialism once, you seem to gravitate towards the concept.
    You mentioned the word "extreme leftism".....
    Do you mean communism instead? Anarchism?




    Please point to any **** I have "made up". My last post was quoting your list of demands. I said you wouldn't have any credibility if you honestly believed in, and defended the list of demands you posted.
    "Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all."


    "Outlaw all credit reporting agencies."

    "Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment."


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    Re: Major profitable corporations are paying negative income taxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    You seem to implied that when you said this: "Extreme leftism? Sounds like the envision a social democratic state like Germany, or France.. Its not that extreme at all...."
    You seem to be having some trouble here, so I'll help you out.

    In post #70 you posted made this post showing the demands of the Occupy movement:

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    And if you would like to get educated on their demands ill provide them for you here instead of making ignorant typical remarks
    This was my response in post #71:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    Actually this list of demands just confirms everyone's view of the movement. No basis in reality, extreme leftism, complete misunderstanding of economics, and a huge sense of entitlement.
    Your replied by saying it wasn't extreme at all and was similar to a France or Germany in post #81:

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Sounds like the envision a social democratic state like Germany, or France.. Its not that extreme at all....
    I responded with DEMANDS FROM THE LIST YOU POSTED and showed examples of how they were way more extreme than anything in Germany and France. I said in post #83:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    Really Germany has:

    Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.
    Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.
    Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all.
    Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

    Are you really trying to defend these demands? If you are, do you think you will have any credibility when discussing politics and the economy from here on out?
    Perhaps I should have put a question mark after "Really Germany has" so you would be able to read it better. The four items below which you quote me as "making up" are demands 3, 9, 11, and 12 from the list you posted. I used those examples (and there are more on the list) of why they are not similar to Germany and more extreme than any country in the EU. I never used the world socialism, I used the world "extreme leftism" as the demands call for extreme regulation and government spending. I know your ilk loves it's revisionist history, but in a forum with recorded posts it's a little harder to pull off. Hope this cleared up the headache your having.
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    Re: Major profitable corporations are paying negative income taxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If we ever get that through our thick skulls, we'll get somewhere. Congress loves to see us blaming:

    The Rich
    Corporations
    Big Banks
    Next Popular Target, whatever that may be

    It's all on them. They are the jakes that let it alllllll happen.
    Actually, I do blame big corporations and big banks too. After all, they are the ones who bought Congress.
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    Re: Major profitable corporations are paying negative income taxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Actually, I do blame big corporations and big banks too. After all, they are the ones who bought Congress.
    I think you're both right. They blame each other and are both responsible. Everyone by nature is self interested and empathetic of their own experiences and circumstances. I remember in a movie called "Shooter" where a corrupt senator Ned Beatty "Meachum" tells the sniper Mark Wahlberg "Swagger", "There are no sides. There's no Sunnis and Shiites. There's no Democrats and Republicans. There's only HAVES and HAVE-NOTS."
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    Re: Major profitable corporations are paying negative income taxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Exactly. Corporations to blame? No. Blame Congress if you don't like corporate welfare. Amazing people need to be continually reminded of this.
    Thing is, corporate lobbyists see to it that corporations stay in control.
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    Re: Major profitable corporations are paying negative income taxes.

    Here's some information on this subject I ran across in my daily rounds.

    The thirty big corporations analyzed in this report paid more to lobby Congress than they paid in federal income taxes for the three years between 2008 and 2010, despite being profitable.

    For Hire: Lobbyists or the 99%? | Public Campaign

    Disclaimer - I don't know anything about Public Campaign, other than their 'About Us'.
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