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    Re: Texas Redistricting Plan Thrown Out by Court

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Once again, skin color matters to the Government. Color Blind? Post Racial? **** that, America, the country that cannot see past skin color.
    Nice ad hominem. And your proof that they were incorrect is...? Oh you don't have any.
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    Re: Texas Redistricting Plan Thrown Out by Court

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Once again, skin color matters to the Government. Color Blind? Post Racial? **** that, America, the country that cannot see past skin color.
    It's not skin color, it's partisanship. Black voters tend to vote Democratic. Democrats like to put them together because it means they win that seat. Republicans like it because keeping Democrats out of "their district" means a safe seat for them.

    Both parties like safe seats. They will basically agree to create a "ghetto" for certain types of voters because it helps them keep power. They do it to everybody in Minnesota -- the Iron Range up north is largely white, working class, union members who vote for Democrats. Putting them in one district means that the Democrats win, and Michele Bachmann doesn't have to run there.


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    Re: Texas Redistricting Plan Thrown Out by Court

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Not quite following this. Again, Michigan has 110 house seats across the state. Each district is about 70,000 people. I am not clear how my vote is cast or even who I am voting for?
    Forget districts. According to wiki Michigan's population is 9.8+mil. If there are 10 house seats up for election then all 9.8 mil people vote for each of those seats. If there are 110 seats up then all 9.8mil people vote for each of those seats.
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    Re: Texas Redistricting Plan Thrown Out by Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I've got an idea....get rid of districts period. One voice, one vote.
    You mean a statewide election?

    Much harder for minority views to get represented that way. If the state were 55 percent Republican, 100% of those elected would be Republican.
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    Re: Texas Redistricting Plan Thrown Out by Court

    Some of this redistricting corruption reads like something out of a third world country.
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    Re: Texas Redistricting Plan Thrown Out by Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Forget districts. According to wiki Michigan's population is 9.8+mil. If there are 10 house seats up for election then all 9.8 mil people vote for each of those seats. If there are 110 seats up then all 9.8mil people vote for each of those seats.
    I already pointed out the problem with this.

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    Re: Texas Redistricting Plan Thrown Out by Court

    I think the system should work something like this: there is a statewide, generic party vote. Say this ends up being 45% Republican, 50% Democrat, and 5% independent. There are 7 open seats in the House.

    Republicans would automatically get 3 seats (because 45% > 3/7ths).
    Democrats would automatically get 3 seats (because 50% > 3/7ths)

    You are left with the a vote of 5% independents, roughly 2% Republicans, and roughly 7% Democrats. Democrats would win the last seat.

    As for which actual candidates are picked, that would be determined by the results of the party primaries.
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    Re: Texas Redistricting Plan Thrown Out by Court

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You mean a statewide election?

    Much harder for minority views to get represented that way. If the state were 55 percent Republican, 100% of those elected would be Republican.
    Last I knew everyone that was allowed to vote were ALL Americans. I'm sick of this whole minority crap. Everyone is treated the same under the law.
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    Re: Texas Redistricting Plan Thrown Out by Court

    Redirecting should be done by a non-partisan group of citizen with representation from all political life and rules based on population and nothing else. If the US is truly non racists now, then people of colour should have no problem being elected in mostly white districts and visa versa, and hence the civil rights era laws and idea of having districts based on race to make sure there is black representation should be killed off. This would prevent the gerrymandering of today since they are using those laws and ideas as an excuse.

    As it stands now both political parties and especially the GOP in Texas, are using redistricting to shore up their political future. Take Rick Perry's hometown.. before De Lay and Rick Perry got their grubby hands into the redistricting last time, this area was a democratic area. After the redistricting the area was split into two and incorporated in 2 other areas who were mostly republican. In essence the Perry home town lost its representation because of political gerrymandering. Now I could some what understand it if it was due to a population shift in the area, but since that was never part of the consideration of De Lay and co back then, then this move was nothing but anti-democratic. And it shows, since the chances of the Democrats taking over the Texas legislative are so remote that you almost have a bigger chance in winning in the lottery.

    There should be no "sure" seats.
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    Re: Texas Redistricting Plan Thrown Out by Court

    An update on this story: The Texas courts have redrawn the map for the 2012 elections. It looks like a pretty big victory for the Democrats, although it's temporary because the legislature will get a chance to draw the map again in a less abusive way after the next election.

    Democrats win big with Texas court's redistricting map - TheHill.com
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