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    Re: 51% Now Say Allegations Against Cain Likely to Be Serious and True

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Meh, I think whether or not he forced a woman's face down to his crotch and put his hand up her skirt is kind of relevant when discussing who will be the president of the United States.
    It definitely affects his electability. His abilility to do the job? Maybe not so much.
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    Re: 51% Now Say Allegations Against Cain Likely to Be Serious and True

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Five accusers is a lot so I'm not surprised people are thinking this way. But it's too early too tell how much of it is true at this point. It still needs to all play out because neither side is backing down. Eventually someone is going to sue, so whoever puts their money where their mouth is will be the clear truth teller.

    Nonetheless, none of this has any effect on my opinion of him as a candidate. I think he's ridiculous as a politician without the allegations.
    He likely can't risk suing, because it will open up all the files for discovery.

    He did get that libel attorney, which (I think) is a show of force, hoping to back them down. But if he chooses to sue, and there's a shred of something true in all this, it become public right away - and the ones who aren't speaking will suddenly be speaking.

    He could sue the lid right off this.

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    Re: 51% Now Say Allegations Against Cain Likely to Be Serious and True

    Hermain Cain is toast. Absolutely toast. Cant wait till the next debate to see how he handles this.


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    Re: 51% Now Say Allegations Against Cain Likely to Be Serious and True

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    It definitely affects his electability. His abilility to do the job? Maybe not so much.
    I think it would affect his ability to do the job. Sexual assault is a pretty big deal not only just in regards to legality but also in terms of the respect you garner from your co-workers, from other international leaders (particularly women) and the world as a whole. It also affects the quality of work done by people around you - assuming he's guilty and would continue it in office. I personally think things like affairs and stuff like that aren't a big deal in terms of ability to do the job. Hell, they might even make certain people do the job better, but sexual assault is just not something that would help the white house.

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    Re: 51% Now Say Allegations Against Cain Likely to Be Serious and True

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    He likely can't risk suing, because it will open up all the files for discovery.

    He did get that libel attorney, which (I think) is a show of force, hoping to back them down. But if he chooses to sue, and there's a shred of something true in all this, it become public right away - and the ones who aren't speaking will suddenly be speaking.

    He could sue the lid right off this.
    Exactly, which is why I think it all comes down to who's willing to follow through with a lawsuit. That right there will make it pretty clear for me.

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    Re: 51% Now Say Allegations Against Cain Likely to Be Serious and True

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Think what that says about other politicians. That leaves roughly 17% of people that believe the allegations are serious and true (which means they think Cain is lying and besmirhcing innocent women) but still believe that his ethics are at least as good as most politicians.
    It is really not too much of a stretch to believe that.

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    Re: 51% Now Say Allegations Against Cain Likely to Be Serious and True

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Maybe you're right. I just think this is kind of beating a dead horse when there are more substantive issues about Cain to discuss.
    No doubt theres more subtantive issues...Like he didnt know china had nukes for 40 yrs...he wanted to put up an electrified fence and kill illegal immigrants...he was pro life then he wasnt...this guy never got any answers right on anything...but the right just keeps giving him pass's

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    Re: 51% Now Say Allegations Against Cain Likely to Be Serious and True

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Meh, I think whether or not he forced a woman's face down to his crotch and put his hand up her skirt is kind of relevant when discussing who will be the president of the United States.
    It never seemed to hurt Bill Clinton politically.
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    Re: 51% Now Say Allegations Against Cain Likely to Be Serious and True

    i have no idea if he did it or not. all i know is that i can't support his ideas.

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