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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Okay:

    Aside from the BS and condescension, you also imply in the bold part that if someone hasn't "done the dangerous stuff" they haven't "paid in full" or served. Why does it matter if someone hasn't done the "dangerous stuff" aka serve in the military if they can serve in other ways?

    And again, your rationale for making people serve before voting doesn't make much sense. This country is not just built on people who "serve" whatever that really means.
    aside from your cherry picking my words, and attempting to make them say something they don't, you don't have squat...do I have to use 1000 words in every post to repeat what I have said in other posts?
    This country owes its existence to men and women who were willing to go up against those who would keep us as subjects to a King, to those who beleived that keeping the country in one peice is worth fighting for, to those who helped put out the fires of 2 world wars. Those that didn't fight stayed home and worked in the factories and collected scrap metal and rationed gas and went without certain foods, all for a great cause.
    Many of our citizens living today have no concept of personal sacrifice, and that is a shame.
    I am sorry that you don't know what "serve" means. DOes this help? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it unto one of these my brethren, even these least, ye did it unto me. Matt chap 25....
    At times in our lives we should be able to help others in need, share a burden, join in a righteous cause. Occupy (name your place) is a good cause. It is being demonized by Fox News because it is the wealthy that benefits mostly from the efforts of others. Sharing the wealth within our borders is denigrated by the wealthy while our young, and not wealthy, sons and daughters fight and die on foreign soil so the rest of us can have a wonderful lifestyle here at home.
    I object to having them die for access to Arab oil, but it will continue because people here at home won't use less fuel so we can at least stop buying oil from our enemies in the Middle East...
    I fully realize that requiring service to vote will never happen, but I fully EXPECT that someday service will be considered an honor and a show of gratitude for the freedom and opportunites we enjoy.
    Wall Street, the bankers, Madison Ave., the insurance industries....all are self serving, they exist to exploit the middle class. That's you and me, pal, like it or not.
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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I was basing those figure off this CBO report
    Social Security Privatization: Experiences Abroad

    The relevant portion
    thanks for the link, it is a good read...
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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I see, so letting Congress spend your SS dollars is better? Boy have they done a bang up job.
    don't worry about me, I get SS, USN retirement, a small amount from the VA for agent orange expouser, and a couple small checks from private pensions. My wife gets SS and has a NICE retirement for her 28 years teaching.
    We have over $200K in savings, and 2 paid for houses. Our cars are old, tho, 12 and 10 years old. We would buy a new one, but would rather spend the money on cruises. Not bad for starting out with nothing in 1964....
    It didn't take me long to see that we can't depend on any ONE source of retirement funds..
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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I have no response for crap like this thats civil...so ill just pass
    Sorry for the late reply as I have have been sidetracked by the abortion rape thread, but what exactly are you annoyed with? The whole thing? According to libs college is great and something all should have and need. The problem is they created the need for everyone to have it, and they ruined it at the same time as they lack to understand what is it actually for and good at. Think about it like this, if everyone has a college education more aren't going to move forward. Instead all that will happen is the requirements will just get higher and higher and with the increased demand for college it will cause it to get more expensive. With all of that, the education at the college will lower as the people going will be less qualified so the schools have lowered their standards and teaching practices only speeding up the process of debt and horrible workers. The libs now want college to be paid completely by taxpayer money to rid themselves of the debt problem of the students but they still aren't understanding why it's so bad. All they are doing really is just another entitlement program to cover up their mistakes, like they did with Medicare, Medicaid, and Obamacare. They **** up an entire system and then when no one can afford it they want to offer it. Seems almost to convenient if you ask me.
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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    people who are not willing to serve their country should not be allowed to vote....according to Robt. Heinlein....and I agree.
    Getting an education and paying taxes is NOT serving...
    Seems like an odd requirement to me. Not saying I'm against serving now, just that I really don't understand your reasoning is all.

    SS is INSURANCE,
    No. There is very little relationship between how much you put in to how much you get out. Its not insurance.

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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    This is bad news for the GOP. The only demographic they carried in the last presidential election was seniors. If the GOP turns the seniors against them, they are sunk.
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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    This is bad news for the GOP. The only demographic they carried in the last presidential election was seniors. If the GOP turns the seniors against them, they are sunk.
    The AARP has been throwing around threats at the GOP for months now. Don't take my freebies away or I will rage. Let them rage. They're just ****ers anyway.

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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    This is bad news for the GOP. The only demographic they carried in the last presidential election was seniors. If the GOP turns the seniors against them, they are sunk.
    AARP =/= Seniors

    I think we'll do okay.

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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Wall Street, the bankers, Madison Ave., the insurance industries....all are self serving, they exist to exploit the middle class. That's you and me, pal, like it or not.
    Yes, their sole purpose is to make the middle class life living hell... That's their whole purpose in life... Self serving? Do insurance industries not provide you with a service? Is it unfair for them to ask you for some of your money? If they provide you service... you pay. That's how things work, no?

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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    Yes, their sole purpose is to make the middle class life living hell... That's their whole purpose in life... Self serving? Do insurance industries not provide you with a service? Is it unfair for them to ask you for some of your money? If they provide you service... you pay. That's how things work, no?
    so, you have never filed a claim? If not, be prepared for being ripped off. There is a lot of fine print in those policies.
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