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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Not limiiting to military....therer are lots of ways to serve, and even some physically handicapped can serve. it is a gratitude thing, be grateful for how good we have it here in the USA...
    I think most people 'serve' in some way in high school. Everyone I know had mandatory service hours in high school.

    Even so, service as "showing gratitude for what we've got here" doesn't make much sense to me. Don't we pay for what we've got here? Don't we vote for what we've got here? Doesn't getting a job and an education sustain what we've got here? I could understand the sentiment if Americans weren't responsible for their country already and if we were getting our government for free, but we're not. The United States is what it is because it's citizens make it so already.

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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The United States is what it is because it's citizens make it so already.
    not all of them
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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    not all of them
    I agree and I can understand having those people do service in exchange for whatever benefits they get - in fact, I think that would be great. But for those who are the ones who make this country what it is, I don't see any rationale for making them do service for what they already pay for in taxes and help build with education and employment.

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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I agree and I can understand having those people do service in exchange for whatever benefits they get - in fact, I think that would be great. But for those who are the ones who make this country what it is, I don't see any rationale for making them do service for what they already pay for in taxes and help build with education and employment.
    I often blast conservatives for stupid remarks, but yours is the first from a liberal. Public education isn't paid in full on just your parents property taxes. Freedom from oppression isn't paid in full just because your tax dollars paid for the soldiers and their weapons.
    I guess it is alright to let others do the dangerous stuff in your behalf as long as you have a job and pay taxes.
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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Not limiiting to military....therer are lots of ways to serve, and even some physically handicapped can serve. it is a gratitude thing, be grateful for how good we have it here in the USA...
    And not just gratitude but a sense of being PART of something.

    Seeing how govt actually WORKS.

    Or how the poor or disabled actually live.

    Or any number of other things that help humans actually understand themselves, others, and the world the live in.
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    I am against any conditions to be eligible to vote other than those set forth in the U.S. Constitution and I see no reason to change the Constitution in that regard.
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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    I hate how people use association to portray a movement/figure/group.
    As in OWS, people try to use veterans, seniors, politicians, famous people, etc... to gather support. Disgusting
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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I'm sure there are lots of investment banks salivating at the opportunity for privatized social security.
    It worked in Other countries that have tried it. What do you have against people controlling their own money?
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It worked in Other countries that have tried it. What do you have against people controlling their own money?
    Citations please.

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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It worked in Other countries that have tried it. What do you have against people controlling their own money?
    its a few people mismanaging the money of others that is the problem....
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