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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    If anyone is raising an issue we should pay attention. And obviously we knew this was going to happen since its social security and Medicare or medicaid being cut. Surprise, surprise, old people.
    I am not sure I understand.... are you saying we should listen or dismiss them (your last words in this sentence: "Surprise, surprise, old people.")

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    These are protester comments 'Don't cut Medicare and Medicaid,' and 'make the rich pay their fair share.'"
    The rich don't pay their fair share already? People act like the rich don't pay... Why the Rich Pay 40% of Taxes - The Wealth Report - WSJ
    Now, I really have no beef with these people I just wish people would learn how much the rich already pay. And stop using that line.
    You really have no concept of mathematics do you.



    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    They pose barely any threat but the laws the law. And so we just let senior people do what they want.... cuz their old? Not to sound heartless. I'm not I love old people.
    Perhaps you misunderstood my point..... I was wondering why CPD felt threatened enough to have to handcuff them.


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    What else was it?
    dunno.

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    I am implying that old people ought not to shatter my perception of em.
    Why not? I will assume another attempt at humor.

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    If you want to know my opinion on this protest... I am against Social Programs.
    I believe in Privatizing things and what not.

    Privatize Social Security already!
    I was going to reply snarkily, but decided against it. I will relate some things here in Chicago. Parking on city streets got privatized, cost of parking went up 300% with no discernible benefit to the public, The Chicago Skyway (toll road to Indiana) got privatized and cost to travel went up around 150% without any discernible benefit to those that use it. Can you explain to me how (or just provide me an example) a publicly held asset ever becomes better for the public when it became privatized?

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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    You really have no concept of mathematics do you.

    Dude.... Maybe you should ummm... think about how small the group of rich people are... and the look at the portion of the income tax they pay. Now, if were going to tax people it makes sense to tax the rich because they have mo' money. But they pay their fair share. And in my opinion if we have a tax... and you don't pay taxes you shouldn't have a voice in the government. Unless of course your retired... which would make sense.

    I am not sure I understand.... are you saying we should listen or dismiss them (your last words in this sentence: "Surprise, surprise, old people.")
    I'm saying that we should listen. And that I kind expected this was going to happen. No one wants to take any cuts. No one wants anything they have to be cut. No, Instead lets tax errybody!

    Perhaps you misunderstood my point..... I was wondering why CPD felt threatened enough to have to handcuff them.

    That's what you do to bad people.

    Why not? I will assume another attempt at humor.
    No, of course not.
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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    I was going to reply snarkily, but decided against it. I will relate some things here in Chicago. Parking on city streets got privatized, cost of parking went up 300% with no discernible benefit to the public, The Chicago Skyway (toll road to Indiana) got privatized and cost to travel went up around 150% without any discernible benefit to those that use it. Can you explain to me how (or just provide me an example) a publicly held asset ever becomes better for the public when it became privatized?
    Well Social Security sure as hell don't work. Maybe, we should try something new.... like... Privatizing Social Security. And if that **** don't work well hell we had a good run.
    Decide for yourself... Privatize Social Security

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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by mattillac View Post
    Below is a link to a news video I found at The Chicago Tribune about seniors attending the protest.




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    Below is another news story and video related to the seniors in Chicago.



    This news sure grabs my attention and it sort makes me wonder, if seniors often need others to help with simple daily chores like going to the store or taking out the trash, maybe that's part of the reason why there isn't a heavier senior presence on a daily basis at these protests, surely it could be very hard on a senior to even attend a protest let alone occupy or live at one.

    What are your thoughts or comments ?

    Your exactly right...I live in fla, in an area with the majority of the population babyboomers and vets...and I cant find one that is happy with the teaparty rhetoric...thats why scott is in the low 30s of favorability.
    These new conservatives need to watch more that just foxnews and read more than just the drudge report....which is one of the only news outlets that didnt report on the total utter spanking Kasich just got by public workers in Ohio...
    Look out for seniors next election cycle...

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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    Well Social Security sure as hell don't work. Maybe, we should try something new.... like... Privatizing Social Security. And if that **** don't work well hell we had a good run.
    Decide for yourself... Privatize Social Security
    It has actually worked perfectly and has the overwhelming support of the American people.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/145790/am...y-defense.aspx

    Despite the constant drumbeat of propaganda from the right, 64% are opposed to any Social Security cuts.
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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Seniors have known for years the system of Government welfare was untenable. Social Security, Medicaide and Medeicare CANNOT CONTINUE. 60% of the Federal budget is spent on those three alone.

    The cuts MUST happen, seniors have only themselves to blame for not voting more intelligently when they were younger.
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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    It sucks that people have to take cuts and have their money taken away from them. Hell, those people worked their assess off in their lifetime... well at least you would hope. I don't know what all our government spends but I think we should even out the cuts as best as we can. Even cutting our military which they have by the way. And before we ever dare cut something as important as Social Security and medicare to get rid of waste as much as possible first. I think everybody would agree on that.
    social security was never intended to support people in their old age. it was intended to be a supplemental income. If you didn't plan ahead and you thought you could live off of SS alone, you were an idiot.

    Like my grandfather always said, "I worked my ass off all my life so that I wouldn't have to depend on social security"
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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Free For All View Post
    Well Social Security sure as hell don't work. Maybe, we should try something new.... like... Privatizing Social Security. And if that **** don't work well hell we had a good run.
    Decide for yourself... Privatize Social Security
    IF we privatize SS, the Wall Street sharks will get richer and richer on the backs of workers trying to save for retirement. There are too few regulations to protect the individual from these professional crooks. Even when we prosecute one of the crooks, the penalty/punishment is not enough to keep others from doing the same thing.
    SS does work, but it was never meant to be the only income for retirees.
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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Seniors have known for years the system of Government welfare was untenable. Social Security, Medicaide and Medeicare CANNOT CONTINUE. 60% of the Federal budget is spent on those three alone.

    The cuts MUST happen, seniors have only themselves to blame for not voting more intelligently when they were younger.
    and who should we have voted for that would have made things better? who should we vote for next? Conservatives are whining about what it cost but have done nothing to make the situation better. Likewise the liberals.
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    Re: Seniors join Occupy Chicago rally to protest cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    Perhaps you misunderstood my point..... I was wondering why CPD felt threatened enough to have to handcuff them.
    First, it's probably procedure that when one is arrested in the street and put in a wagon, one is handcuffed. Next, these people delighted in being handcuffed. That's what true civil disobedience is all about. Peaceful demonstration violating private space followed by arrest. Grams and Gramps get it. The others? Notsomuch.
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