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    Re: Paterno getting the boot at PennState

    Paterno reported what he was told. That's good. However, when Paterno saw nothing was being done, he should have taken the allegations to the authorities. These are children we're talking about, abused children, including the report from a witness who saw a 10-yr-old boy being raped.

    Paterno deserved to be fired. However, so does his boss to whom he reported the abuse, and so does every damned person at that university who was told about the allegations and did nothing. I'm betting there are a ****load of 'em, too. They're using Paterno as a fall guy to save their own asses. I hope the authorities investigate all the way to the top, find out who knew what, when they knew it, and what they did or did not do. Then start writing up arrest warrants... by the dozen if need be.

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    Re: Paterno getting the boot at PennState

    From what a person from Pennsylvania that's on the beat said on the radio today, apparently during a press conference or something the prosecutor in the case was asked about Paterno and if he would face any legal issues and he said no. When they asked him about the President of the university he gave no such assurance. So while I have an issue with Paterno's actions, his is low on the culpability scale compared to a lot of the others who actively seemingly tried to sweep it under the rug rather than just mostly ignored it.

    Also, I knew I had a littel family connection to this but it is actually more than I realized. My uncle (through marriage) actually began his coaching career as a grad assistant under Jerry Sandusky. My cousin is also a WR for Penn State right now, with his position coach being Mike McQueary...the guy who apparently saw the act and reported it to Paterno. He gave the WR's a heads up in practice today that he may very well be gone very shortly, so things may simply be going on behind the scenes and not announced yet.

    As a note though, I must retract something I said earlier. The abuse was happening prior to him retiring, but the abuse that McQueary saw happened in 2002...after Sandusky was retired. So its not like Paterno could've fired him because he already was fired. That said, Paterno could've disallowed him from continuing to use the facilities freely (and I go back to, could've called the cops direct).

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    Re: Paterno getting the boot at PennState

    It looks like it is possible(though maybe unlikely) that Paterno could face criminal charges: Did Penn State's Joe Paterno break law in Jerry Sandusky case? - Michael McCann - SI.com

    While Pennsylvania Attorney General Linda Kelly says that her office won't file charges against Joe Paterno for not reporting the alleged child sexual abuse by former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky, the 84-year-old coach could eventually face criminal charges for perjury, obstruction of justice and violating the state's Child Protective Services Law. Paterno could also become a defendant in civil lawsuits filed by Sandusky's alleged victims. Those lawsuits could allege that Paterno negligently failed to prevent a third party with whom he had a supervisory relationship (Sandusky) from committing abuse.
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    Re: Paterno getting the boot at PennState

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    correct, what he reported to the athletic director was 'hearsay', nothing that paterno had seen or witnessed personally, is my understanding. the AD reported it to law enforcement, and the prosecutor declined to bring charges...at least that is how i have heard it.
    He did what was legally required. But some feel there was a moral responsibility to do more than that. I do understand that thinking, even though I respect his career and am sadden he will end with this cloud over him.

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    Re: Paterno getting the boot at PennState

    Paterno deserves to take a hit to his reputation on this one, but my bigger problem is with the assistant.

    He witnessed a young boy being raped in the shower, went home and talked to his dad about how he should handle it, then the next day told Paterno.

    that guy is not getting the negative publicity he deserves, if it was me, I would of found the closest blunt instrument available and ended the rape on the spot.

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    Re: Paterno getting the boot at PennState

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Paterno deserves to take a hit to his reputation on this one, but my bigger problem is with the assistant.

    He witnessed a young boy being raped in the shower, went home and talked to his dad about how he should handle it, then the next day told Paterno.

    that guy is not getting the negative publicity he deserves, if it was me, I would of found the closest blunt instrument available and ended the rape on the spot.
    There is alot of truth to this. In his shoes, I hope I would have intervened had I seen it, and I know I would have gone strait to the police. My mind boggles at the idea you just tell your boss.
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    Re: Paterno getting the boot at PennState

    I don't excuse McQueary at all and have similar views of him in this as Paterno, if not worse. I did hear something the other day though that makes me have to pause and ask "How would that have affected me". Apparently he grew up friends with Sandusky's kid, playing little league with him and other things, and knew Sandusky since he was very young. Sandusky was a family friend, a friends father, and a legend in Happy Vally where McQueary grew up.

    Seeing that sort of man doing that sort of action, I can only imagine that the gut response may've been a bit different than if it was just some guy you work with.

    In no way am I saying I think what McQueary did was morally right or the correct action, but I do find it a bit harder to put myself in his shoes and answer with absolute honesty when trying to view it through that scope.

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    Re: Paterno getting the boot at PennState

    Maybe he didn't report it because he knew this could have happened to him?

    Mental Health Worker Fired For Reporting Child Pornography Found On Client's Computer

    A Missoula, Montana mental health employee is currently out of a job after reporting child pornography she found on the computer of a client, John Gribble, to the police, according to the Associated Press. The employee, who has not been named, first went to supervisors with her concerns, but was told not to contact authorities because her discovery did not meet the requirements for reporting an offense.According to the Missoulian, court papers show that she contacted police on October 17, reporting concerns after she saw the words "female child nude" and "preteen nude girls by themselves" in the browsing history of Gribble's computer. Gribble was later charged with sexually abusing children after a DVD containing nude photos of children was found in his home, according to multiple reports.Despite the fact that the worker was concerned for the safety of young girls Gribble babysat, and that her suspicions proved true, the company maintains that she violated their policies when she called police.

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    Re: Paterno getting the boot at PennState

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    I'm trying to wrap my mind around what it is the man did wrong? He got wind of a problem. He reported the problem to his superiors. The superiors took it to local law enforcement (i.e. prosecutor) and the prosecutor is the one that denied any action. How is that Paterno's fault? He did exactly what he was supposed to do.
    If you are Joe Paterno in College Station, Pa and you go to the cops, **** gets done. If Paterno knew about it, and he did, and nothing happened after you reported it, and it didn't and Paterno let it slide then while he may have done enough to save his butt, but he did NOT do enough to save later victims. He took no action when action wasn't taken. That is where he failed.










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