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    Re: New Woman Accusing Herman Cain Of Sexual Harassment Hires Gloria Allred

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Maybe. Then again, Obama's not polling so well these days in comparison to where he was during the election of '08. He's not the same untarnished star that he was before.
    Thats true tess...but Obama was up against Hillary whos no dull blade and McCain a very experienced debater who is very knowledgeable about washington and Foreign Policy...and obama beat them.
    Cain is a moron when it comes to politics and dangerously dumb when it comes to foreign policy...obama will make him look like a smacked arse....Cain is living proof business experience means squat when you know nothing else.

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    Re: New Woman Accusing Herman Cain Of Sexual Harassment Hires Gloria Allred

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Do you honestly think there is a liberal out there who wouldn't want Herman Cain to run?
    I'm not sure, to be honest. If the liberals were really anxious to guarantee a win in 2012 I would have thought they'd work harder to get somebody like Santorum or Bachmann through the primaries. America's attention span is short, so it seems risky to put all the eggs in Cain's basket, assuming he'd be soundly beaten on the basis of today's big scandalous headline.
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    Re: New Woman Accusing Herman Cain Of Sexual Harassment Hires Gloria Allred

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Thats true tess...but Obama was up against Hillary whos no dull blade and McCain a very experienced debater who is very knowledgeable about washington and Foreign Policy...and obama beat them.
    Cain is a moron when it comes to politics and dangerously dumb when it comes to foreign policy...obama will make him look like a smacked arse....Cain is living proof business experience means squat when you know nothing else.
    You can't deny that nothing from McCain's camp or Clinton's camp could rival the cult of personality that surrounded Obama. The mantras of "hope" and "change" and the (sometimes disturbing) fan-following that surrounded Obama were unprecendented. I half suspect he could have farted his way through those debates and still come out on top, so long as he ended each fart with "yes we can". He doesn't have that edge this time around, so he'll have to rely heavily on his skills as a legitimate debater and I'm not sure if you noticed, but he's become increasingly more agitated in his addresses, especially when questioned about failed predictions and the stalled economy.
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    Re: New Woman Accusing Herman Cain Of Sexual Harassment Hires Gloria Allred

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Has anything at all been proven yet? Sounds like all we have is allegations.
    That's all we're ever going to have unless it goes to civil court. Surely the statute of limitations has passed on any criminal charges of harrassment. As for the women bringing civil suits, I don't see that happening. By waiting, they've lost all credibility. Maybe Cain will, but, on the other hand, he just wants it all to go away. Unfortunately, things like this don't have to be proven. And this isn't going away. Cain's through. His ability to raise funds is out the window. How many donors are going to cast their lot with this guy? Nobody smart.
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    Re: New Woman Accusing Herman Cain Of Sexual Harassment Hires Gloria Allred

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I'm not sure, to be honest. If the liberals were really anxious to guarantee a win in 2012 I would have thought they'd work harder to get somebody like Santorum or Bachmann through the primaries. America's attention span is short, so it seems risky to put all the eggs in Cain's basket, assuming he'd be soundly beaten on the basis of today's big scandalous headline.
    I don't think liberals have put their eggs in any basket just yet. Most of the GOP candidates are great from my perspective for the Democrats, so I can't see them doing too much work to support or destroy any of the candidates.

    Nonetheless, I'd place my money on Democrats not having anything to do with this simply because intra-party sabotage is much more common at this stage of the game than inter-party sabotage is most elections.

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    Re: New Woman Accusing Herman Cain Of Sexual Harassment Hires Gloria Allred

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I'm not sure, to be honest. If the liberals were really anxious to guarantee a win in 2012 I would have thought they'd work harder to get somebody like Santorum or Bachmann through the primaries. America's attention span is short, so it seems risky to put all the eggs in Cain's basket, assuming he'd be soundly beaten on the basis of today's big scandalous headline.
    There isnt enough hard work in the universe that could get either bachman or santorum through the primary...but your right the obama camp would be dancing in the street if either of them run....trust obamas greatest fear is romney...who will beat him if he gets past the primary.

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    Re: New Woman Accusing Herman Cain Of Sexual Harassment Hires Gloria Allred

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Has anything at all been proven yet? Sounds like all we have is allegations.
    Someone is lying. Either the women or Cain. There may not be any physical evidence such as DNA to help settle this.

    But there are two settlements on record. Cain has had to backtrack so many times now that he won't even talk to the press.
    For me I find it totally dishonest to pretend you wouldn't remember something like a sexual harassment charge.

    With that information and no telling who else is going to come out of the shadows the GOP are going to have to decide if this is the horse they want for the Derby.

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    Re: New Woman Accusing Herman Cain Of Sexual Harassment Hires Gloria Allred

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    There isnt enough hard work in the universe that could get either bachman or santorum through the primary...but your right the obama camp would be dancing in the street if either of them run....trust obamas greatest fear is romney...who will beat him if he gets past the primary.
    Romney is definitely Obama's greatest threat which is why it's dumbfounding to me that he isn't the clear pick yet. But even so, I don't think Romney beating Obama is even close to a sure thing. It would be incredibly easy to discredit Romney by portraying him as a loose cannon who people can't trust to do what he says he will do. It's also easy to portray him as too liberal for what he claims to be. Even further, Obama has experience as president, foreign policy and a focus on jobs going for him. And although Romney's focus on spending works to a certain extent, I think most Americans click more with jobs than spending.

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    Re: New Woman Accusing Herman Cain Of Sexual Harassment Hires Gloria Allred

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I thought in order to be sexual harassment, the accuser has to be employed by the accusee? This woman didn't even work for him at the time he allegedly made a move on her? How is that sexual harassment and not just a clumsy sexual advance after she called him to meet at a hotel?
    Sexual harassment, is intimidation, bullying or coercion of a sexual nature, or the unwelcome or inappropriate promise of rewards in exchange for sexual favors.

    Having said that.... this of course cannot be considered workplace sexual harrassment because she wasnt working with or for Cain..... but his comment, if true, about "ya want a job, right?" implies the promise of reward. Doubt anything legal should have been or can be now done, but if proven true, it definitely goes to his character.

    As far as Gloria Allred goes...shes a man hater and so totally politically movitivated its pathetic (she wasnt so much the man hater when it came to all those women who accused Clinton, she wanted nothing to do with those women), but that doesnt change the fact that this, if proven true, goes to his character. You can say all you want about her or about the reasons that these charges by all these women were brought forward now.... but if they are proven true, it doesnt make Cain any less of a pervert or an asshole.

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    Re: New Woman Accusing Herman Cain Of Sexual Harassment Hires Gloria Allred

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrat View Post
    Sexual harassment, is intimidation, bullying or coercion of a sexual nature, or the unwelcome or inappropriate promise of rewards in exchange for sexual favors.

    Having said that.... this of course cannot be considered workplace sexual harrassment because she wasnt working with or for Cain..... but his comment, if true, about "ya want a job, right?" implies the promise of reward. Doubt anything legal should have been or can be now done, but if proven true, it definitely goes to his character.

    As far as Gloria Allred goes...shes a man hater and so totally politically movitivated its pathetic (she wasnt so much the man hater when it came to all those women who accused Clinton, she wanted nothing to do with those women), but that doesnt change the fact that this, if proven true, goes to his character. You can say all you want about her or about the reasons that these charges by all these women were brought forward now.... but if they are proven true, it doesnt make Cain any less of a pervert or an asshole.
    Part of the problem I have with a woman coming out of the woodworks now is that, barring a confession from Cain, it cannot be proven. All it is, is a political hit with no merit.

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