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Armed Citizen Militia Shows Up At Occupy Phoenix

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Alternate Headline: Neo-Nazis Are Face of Occupy Movement.

i figure it's just as legit as the notion that the one guy who happened to get hurt and be a vet.


Armed citizen militia group US Border Guard is making its presence felt at the Occupy Phoenix demonstration to protect free speech rights, arguing that the second amendment prevents the state from abusing the first amendment.

The group has been labeled “neo-nazis” by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is usually a demonization tactic, but the individual shown in the clip, “JT Ready” has attended neo-nazi rallies and is closely affiliated with the fringe National Socialist Party....

Opinions will undoubtedly be split, but one certainty is the fact that the establishment media instantly seized upon groups like this attaching themselves to the Tea Party rallies as a smear tactic to claim the whole movement was racist and violent. However, in the case of ‘Occupy’, the mainstream networks have largely ignored making such connections.
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Can you see the bottom of that rabbit hole cp? Have you passed Alice yet? This line of 'thinking' would have to rise several levels to even approach outright intellectual fraud and gross dishonesty.

The entire OWS movement obviously scares the hell out of the far right and the defenders of corporations and unrestrained cannibal capitalism. They are doing everything possible, including ridiculous nonsense like this, to attempt to discredit the movement. This sort of thing just shows the absurd lengths the right is going to in order to hold onto their power and wealth. And I am NOT talking about the armed bozo's in the video.
 
haymarket said:
Can you see the bottom of that rabbit hole cp? Have you passed Alice yet? This line of 'thinking' would have to rise several levels to even approach outright intellectual fraud and gross dishonesty.
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congratulations! you are correct! you score a zero for getting the point, but a full 10.0 for pointing out the fundamental flaw in the argument presented :thumbs: !
 
Baloney. There is no deep 'point' to get. What you are doing is intellectually dishonest and a fraud. You are not proving any deep point here and you are certainly not exposing your political enemies or their perceived tactics that you suggest you are excoriating with this ruse. Its just stupid.
 
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haymarket said:
Baloney. There is no deep 'point' to get. What you are doing is intellectually dishonest and a fraud.
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:lamo I can only say you are still correct! :lamo
 
cpwill said:
Alternate Headline: Neo-Nazis Are Face of Occupy Movement.

i figure it's just as legit as the notion that the one guy who happened to get hurt and be a vet.




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LOL! Infowars fail! Youtube video fail!

Infowars is a conspiracy site owned and run by Alex Jones, the father of all conspiracy theories. Also, youtube videos don't prove anything since one can find a youtube video on anything.
 
And you think you are clever or somehow witty or come off as intelligent because of this?

This reminds me of student behavior I saw during my early years teaching in junior high.
 
Mr. Invisible said:
LOL! Infowars fail! Youtube video fail!

Infowars is a conspiracy site owned and run by Alex Jones, the father of all conspiracy theories. Also, youtube videos don't prove anything since one can find a youtube video on anything.
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:lamo



how'd your fishing trip go, son?

I caught two loudmouthed bass!


aaaaaaaahhhhiieeeeee... I swear, if I could translate some of the stuff that happens here into a script, that show would run longer than Seinfeld :lol:
 
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Actually it would not even get a first meeting as the absurdity of what you think is clever would not amuse a fifth grader hooked on Nickelodeon.

You are trying to pretend that you just do not get it . Others with far more insight and wisdom do get it.

according to Bloomberg Businessweek:

They want more and better jobs, more equal distribution of income, less profit (or no profit) for banks, lower compensation for bankers, and more strictures on banks with regard to negotiating consumer services such as mortgages and debit cards. They also want to reduce the influence that corporations—financial firms in particular—wield in politics, and they want a more populist set of government priorities: bailouts for student debtors and mortgage holders, not just for banks.
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And that reality scares the hell out of you and your right wing associates. So instead of engaging in actual intellectual discussion you focus on the absurd and the trivial and attempt to mock and riducle and pretend that you can pass for clever or witty when you fail to get even half way to clever.

It was painfully obvious what this sham thread was about from the get go and you pretending that some do not get it makes your fraud even worse.
 
All that brain gone to waste... another dump of a thread.
 
MKULTRABOY said:
All that brain gone to waste... another dump of a thread.
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This is at least the third time in two days that some right winger has attempted to use this nazi garbage to scream for attention. Its sad and pathetic. What is even sadder is that an otherwise intelligent person like cpwill is the one engaging in it.
 
nonw this is some funny stuff. let's break this down:

They want more and better jobs
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...they just don't want to have to work for them, or start on the bottom and rise with their productivity.

more equal distribution of income, less profit (or no profit) for banks, lower compensation for bankers
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:) and here people have been trying to argue that they're not about tearing down the successful.

more strictures on banks with regard to negotiating consumer services such as mortgages and debit cards. They also want to reduce the influence that corporations—financial firms in particular—wield in politics,
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:doh apparently they are also too stupid to realize that when you increase government regulatory oversight on the economy, you generally increass the political power of the bigger firms in the sectors affected.

and they want a more populist set of government priorities: bailouts for student debtors and mortgage holders, not just for banks.
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well, naturally. "Give Me Free Stuff" :)
 
haymarket said:
This is at least the third time in two days that some right winger has attempted to use this nazi garbage to scream for attention. Its sad and pathetic. What is even sadder is that an otherwise intelligent person like cpwill is the one engaging in it.
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:lol: still point-grasping fail?
 
Hey isnt this that group of border patrols that showed up to the rally. Then in other publications they call them NAZIs. So are these guys border patrol agents or NAZIs? Find it odd that someone would accuse "right to weapons" people as national socialists.
 
Was he actually armed? I saw no evidence of that.

I am a bit disturbed, though, at the direction this OWS thing is going - I see people losing their minds, turning more violent, and the whole fiasco divulging into a national crisis. It's already a shameful page in the history books - the last thing it needs are some fat armed rednecks who actually figured out how to make their poppers go bang.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
Was he actually armed? I saw no evidence of that.

I am a bit disturbed, though, at the direction this OWS thing is going - I see people losing their minds, turning more violent, and the whole fiasco divulging into a national crisis. It's already a shameful page in the history books - the last thing it needs are some fat armed rednecks who actually figured out how to make their poppers go bang.
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No poppers are going to go bang. It's solidarity. It's being able to put up a front line of protesters that will make the Police think twice about attacking the group. I wish the WWE wrestlers would join up. They'd make one hell of a front line.
 
cpwill's point is spot on and the funny thing is even those who say they get it won't likely learn from it.
 
cpwill said:
:lol: still point-grasping fail?
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You remind me of the sixth grade kid who thinks he came up with something clever and everybody else saw through it the minute it came out of his mouth. But he will not give it up since he believes it is the funniest thing since sliced bread so he keeps harping on it over and over and over again telling us how clever he is.
 
1Perry said:
cpwill's point is spot on and the funny thing is even those who say they get it won't likely learn from it.
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We get it.
We got it.
It was so damn obvious that Stevie Wonder could see it coming.

The problem is its just not witty or funny or insightful. It only appeals to those who have already become intoxicated on right wing kool-aid and it seems only they see this as even half witty.

We get it Perry - always have.
 
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I don't get it... or is he shooting for politihack-points?
 
Hey, guys. I recognize a troll thread when I see one, and this one was a beauty. cpwill caught a couple of fish right off the bat, and kept catching fish even after admitting that this was a troll thread.

Moral of the story - If you feed the troll, you end up in the fish basket, and deep fried too. LMAO.
 
Ohh i get it so the whole right wing is using tactics that a few amount of idiotic liberal pundits used on the tea party to generalize the Occupy movement.....
Hypocrites...
 
danarhea said:
Hey, guys. I recognize a troll thread when I see one, and this one was a beauty. cpwill caught a couple of fish right off the bat, and kept catching fish even after admitting that this was a troll thread.

Moral of the story - If you feed the troll, you end up in the fish basket, and deep fried too. LMAO.
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How can a thread which is labeled as a FRAUD and DISHONEST in he first post to reply to it be seen as catching anyone? You are reacting with your own ideological lean as opposed to reading with any logic involved. But do keep patting each other on the back and the same will be done for you someday when your own idea goes down in fast flames.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Ohh i get it so the whole right wing is using tactics that a few amount of idiotic liberal pundits used on the tea party to generalize the Occupy movement.....
Hypocrites...
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eh :shrug: i don't know - when we do it we realize it's stupid; and we do it for humor. I'm not so positive others didn't believe in it when it benefited them.


anywho, this one has worked out so well, i think i'll go start a thread talking about how "sexual harrasment" is now liberal-code for "black men can't control their sexuality because they are more beastlike", making everyone talking about herman cain.... a secret racist..... :lol:
 
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