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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

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    IOW, you cannot refute the point.

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    You made no point that needed to be refuted. All you did was give us a typical right wing knee jerk response defending your own by attacking your enemy. Think back to your days on the elementary school playground when the high point of intellectual retort was

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    A week into this there was one...no...two...now three allegations of some form of sexual misconduct. The allegations came from the Romney camp...no...wait...the Perry camp...no..no...it came from Rahm Immaneul...

    OK...its just becoming a little silly. We dont know if these folks were legitimately harassed or just disgruntled former employees going for a paycheck. We really know very little about anything. The only thing I know FOR SURE and that has swayed my opinion somewhat (and again...I wouldnt have voted for him anyway) is HIS response...which has been very much not stellar. If it comes out that he was/is just a flirtatious type that had people mistake his behaviors rightly or wrongly, then I could probably over look that. Im betting we all have done things that could be taken a certain way. But his public comments were not "well...I know there were some folks that misinterpreted some things...nothing untoward was ever met...Im sorry they took it the wrong way and those have been settled-no harm, no foul, press on" then I would be fine. But thats not what his response has been. Regardless of what actually happened, I dont dance on what the meaning of 'is' is, and when someone says 'I dont know' or 'I dont remember' or point blank I have NEVER done anything untoward....well...you damn sure better be squeaky clean.
    Well, I think we can remove one of the accusers off the "spill the beans" list. Apparently, one of the accusers (on the advice of her attorney ) has decided not to go public with her side of the story.

    The National Restaurant Association on Friday confirmed that it granted a financial settlement to a woman after she filed a sexual harassment complaint against Herman Cain in 1999.

    The trade group also freed her from her confidentiality agreement, although her attorney said she doesn’t intend to speak publicly on the matter. “Notwithstanding the Association’s ongoing policy of maintaining the privacy of all personnel matters, we have advised [her attorney] that we are willing to waive the confidentiality of this matter and permit [Joel] Bennett’s client to comment,” Dawn Sweeney, president of the National Restaurant Association, said Friday in a news release.

    Bennett, the attorney for the woman, on Thursday submitted a request to release her from the agreement.

    The association announced its decision just as Bennett was telling reporters that the complaint against Cain involved “more than one incident” that, in the woman’s opinion, qualified as sexual harassment.

    “My client stands by the complaint that she made,” he said.

    Bennett declined to give additional details about the nature of the incidents, citing the woman’s desire to stay out of the spotlight.

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    “Based upon the information currently available, we can confirm that more than a decade ago, in July 1999, Mr. Bennett’s client filed a formal internal complaint, in accordance with the Association’s existing policies prohibiting discrimination and harassment. Mr. Herman Cain disputed the allegations in the complaint. The Association and Mr. Bennett’s client subsequently entered into an agreement to resolve the matter, without any admission of liability. Mr. Cain was not a party to that agreement.”
    Now that this one accuser has back pedalled on her decision to tell her side of the story, her refusal to talk removes some credibility from this story. Doesn't mean Herman Cain didn't do something wrong; it just means maybe the situation (at least with one woman) wasn't as bad as it's been made out to be. And remember, there's still one accuser left and one alleged "eye witness" to Cain's past inappropriate behavior along the lines of what he's being "accused" of having done.

    The story...accusations...rumors...what the hell?....continues.
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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Based on some recent revelations, I'd say that this situation is much more serious than I first imagined.

    Perry and Romney will probably say very little about this. Their tactic will probably be to let Cain self-destruct.
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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Looks like a third woman has come forward: BBC News - Third woman claims inappropriate behaviour from Cain

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    Looks like a third woman has come forward: BBC News - Third woman claims inappropriate behaviour from Cain
    I would feel better about the situation if the women themselves came forward, and didn't hide behind attorneys and confidentiality agreements. I also have questions about THEIR character as they agreed to keep the issues confidential in exchange for money and then sought ways around that by using attorneys to speak for them. In my mind they have already broken the spirit of the agreements, if not the letter, and should return the money.

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    We have already agreed that even if it did happen, sexual harrassment doesn't disqualify one from being president.
    In this you are absolutely correct. And the group that supports Cain may be reduced by a little, but that doesn't matter. In fact sexual harassment by someone in power illustrates how they will behave in other similar situations in the future and that behavior is in alignment with his supporters. He'll be the Boss.

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I would feel better about the situation if the women themselves came forward, and didn't hide behind attorneys and confidentiality agreements. I also have questions about THEIR character as they agreed to keep the issues confidential in exchange for money and then sought ways around that by using attorneys to speak for them. In my mind they have already broken the spirit of the agreements, if not the letter, and should return the money.
    They have kept to the agreement. As for who brought this up is unknown. Cain believes it was the Perry camp and Perry camp thinks it the Romney camp.

    What is known that Cain has had to back track so many times in this revelation. Probably the most irriatating thing to the women is to listen to Cain now say that he only said one was tall as his wife and put his hand up in the air. I think there was a little more to that and Cain knows it.

    At first his convenient lack of memory of any such harrassment claim is so over the board bogus. I kind of think most people would remember something like that. He has bumbled and danced around this issue so much I hate to picture him as president and dealing with someone as sharp and hard as Putnin. Putnin would eat him up for breakfast.

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    They have kept to the agreement. As for who brought this up is unknown. Cain believes it was the Perry camp and Perry camp thinks it the Romney camp.

    What is known that Cain has had to back track so many times in this revelation. Probably the most irriatating thing to the women is to listen to Cain now say that he only said one was tall as his wife and put his hand up in the air. I think there was a little more to that and Cain knows it.

    At first his convenient lack of memory of any such harrassment claim is so over the board bogus. I kind of think most people would remember something like that. He has bumbled and danced around this issue so much I hate to picture him as president and dealing with someone as sharp and hard as Putnin. Putnin would eat him up for breakfast.
    I would suggest that, if they have attorneys speaking for them, they have not kept the agreement. To me, keeping the agreement is not responding at all. Just letting it hang out there for speculation.

    As far as how Cain has handled it, that is another issue, albeit a very legitimate one in its own right.

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    He isn't a serious candidate? That's news to me.
    Is it still news to you?

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post

    He isn't a serious candidate? That's news to me.
    Still news to you?

    When Cain Pulled a Rick Perry - The Daily Beast

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