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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

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    seems the military has changed significantly since my era. it appears that accepting troops to perform duty has now become discretionary
    this was a medical retention unit where soldiers who had been injured on deployment were sent to recover. they were assigned to work for different units around the post according to what their injury/recovery status allowed. some drove the post shuttle taxis, some worked as office clerks, some worked in the DFAC. The intent was to keep them as gainfully employed as their medical status would allow, instead of just allowing them to lay around doing nothing and collecting a check. (it seemed that if they actually had to work, they seemed to "recover" faster and could be returned to full active duty status)

    but hey....nice try at calling me a liar. thanks for playing
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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

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    I once was the investigating officer on a sexual harassment claim. a couple of female soldiers accused their SGT of giving them crappy duty assignments because they wouldn't date him. My investigation revealed that these two idiots were just lazy, worthless POS that NOBODY on post wanted working for them, so their SGT was doing the best he could to find any assignment that would take them. They turned around and filed an EO complaint against me, claiming that the only reason I ruled in their SGT's favor was because they were black. I had been going to let the whole thing drop...but when they tried to be little bitches about it, I simply took their sworn statements and charged them both with violating article 107 of the UCMJ (filing a false official statement/report). They both were reduced one pay grade in rank, given 45 days additional duty and fined half a month's pay for two months. I made it a point every evening to drive by the warehouse where they were scraping old paint off the walls and wave to them.
    and as the investigating officer, what information did you learn which enabled you to absolutely conclude that their allegation of sexual harassment was baseless?
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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

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    and as the investigating officer, what information did you learn which enabled you to absolutely conclude that their allegation of sexual harassment was baseless?
    I simply interviewed all of the NCOs and officers that he had previously sent them to work for and, without exception, they all told me that within a week they called the medical retention center and told them that the services of these two individuals was no longer needed or wanted. the terms "dishonest", "disrespectful" and "dirtbag" were used early and often to describe them.

    according to one MSG: and I quote "SPC X and Y routinely reported late for duty, made false statements concerning medical appointments in order to leave work, failed to return to work after legitimate appointments and performed their duties in a substandard manner" She emphasized that it was she, and not their SGT, who initiated the reassignment. She further asserted that "SPC X and Y's dishonesty and poor performance were the reason for their reassignment"

    As to the assignment they were complaining about being given:

    from an email sent to their SGT from a CPT XYZ: "I need urgent help: I need to staff SGT X with at least 48 drivers. Come see me for details. URGENT"

    other than the two accusers, I could not find a single person who had ever heard the SGT make any comments or take any actions towards them that could be considered to be harassment.

    so, basically these were two lazy POS bitches who thought they could get out of having to do any work if they accused their boss of harassment.
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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    A week into this there was one...no...two...now three allegations of some form of sexual misconduct. The allegations came from the Romney camp...no...wait...the Perry camp...no..no...it came from Rahm Immaneul...

    OK...its just becoming a little silly. We dont know if these folks were legitimately harassed or just disgruntled former employees going for a paycheck. We really know very little about anything. The only thing I know FOR SURE and that has swayed my opinion somewhat (and again...I wouldnt have voted for him anyway) is HIS response...which has been very much not stellar. If it comes out that he was/is just a flirtatious type that had people mistake his behaviors rightly or wrongly, then I could probably over look that. Im betting we all have done things that could be taken a certain way. But his public comments were not "well...I know there were some folks that misinterpreted some things...nothing untoward was ever met...Im sorry they took it the wrong way and those have been settled-no harm, no foul, press on" then I would be fine. But thats not what his response has been. Regardless of what actually happened, I dont dance on what the meaning of 'is' is, and when someone says 'I dont know' or 'I dont remember' or point blank I have NEVER done anything untoward....well...you damn sure better be squeaky clean.

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    This thread is dedicated to the issue of the TWO women who accused Cain of improper behavior. Is it okay to still post here and discuss the THREE women who have now been discussed?

    Will we need to keep adding threads as more and more women are added to the list?

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    I don't see how this is even an issue. how many women came forward and accused Bill Clinton of harassing, molesting or outright raping them and we were told that what he does in his personal life is none of our business?

    just seems a bit hypocritical to try to assassinate Cain's character over something that may or may not have happened a decade ago.

    put in perspective of the timeline:

    at the time these two were accusing Cain of harassment...Clinton was allegedly raping Paula Jones
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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I don't see how this is even an issue. how many women came forward and accused Bill Clinton of harassing, molesting or outright raping them and we were told that what he does in his personal life is none of our business?

    just seems a bit hypocritical to try to assassinate Cain's character over something that may or may not have happened a decade ago.
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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

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    Your knee just got hit again with that little rubber hammer.
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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I don't see how this is even an issue. how many women came forward and accused Bill Clinton of harassing, molesting or outright raping them and we were told that what he does in his personal life is none of our business?

    just seems a bit hypocritical to try to assassinate Cain's character over something that may or may not have happened a decade ago.

    put in perspective of the timeline:

    at the time these two were accusing Cain of harassment...Clinton was allegedly raping Paula Jones
    Maybe it's not the accusations that are important, but how Cain has handled this "crisis". He's looked like a bumbling fool, especially compared to how Clinton handled his "crisis".
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