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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Settlements are a double-edged sword. On the one hand they often are cheaper, when viewed as an individual case. On the other hand, they only serve to encourage more claims, many of which will be baseless as many will accept an easy settlement.
    Its a pendulum. During the early 90s, that is exactly what was happening. Harassment were flying left and right in the corporate world. Some valid, some not. These days, things have calmed a bit and you'll have more attention paid to them. It has a lot to do with the improvement of the policies where just accusing someone doesn't cut it anymore.

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

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    That's why virtually every settlement has a confidentiality agreement.
    CAs only help keep *how much* in line (somewhat), but the fact that there was a settlement is still common knowledge.

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Its a pendulum. During the early 90s, that is exactly what was happening. Harassment were flying left and right in the corporate world. Some valid, some not. These days, things have calmed a bit and you'll have more attention paid to them. It has a lot to do with the improvement of the policies where just accusing someone doesn't cut it anymore.
    Agree on both points. It is a pendulum, and things have calmed from what they were. There are still plenty of people that have the perception that easy money is available, though.

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

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    No kidding. Settling is often cheaper than litigation and the risk of having a potted plant jury get played by a plaintiffs attorney and cream the innocent defendent. The fact that these settlements are so small strongly suggests the women didn't have a case.....if they did they would have had a few hundred plaintiffs bar lawyers clammering to represent them and win a huge award. If managemet thought they had a real legal exposure, they would have easily paid a lot more.
    First of all, did you know of Herman Cain back then? Probably not and that is why there weren't "a few hundred plaintiffs bar lawyers clammering to represent them ".
    Today, yes there would have been a a hundred plaintiff lawyers.

    If you were accused by your neighbor of having sexual contact with his 9 yr old son would you fight to save your reputation or would you pay them a few thousands to just shut up?

    I might be persuaded to do a settlement in cases of contract disputes or property claims but never would I okay a settlement of being accused of something so damming to my character. Just saying.

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    If I'm not mistaken, cain's offer is to pay anyone who accuses him of sexual harrassment $999,000 to shut up.

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Agree on both points. It is a pendulum, and things have calmed from what they were. There are still plenty of people that have the perception that easy money is available, though.
    And there are still plenty of supervisors/managers/bosses that are deathly afraid of being accused. I've had both sex and racial discrimination accusations thrown at me during the counseling of personnel based on poor performance. In these instances, my response was identical. Ask for specifics on why they felt that way (always felt this important in case there is some miscommunication or misinterpretation) and if they feel their claim is valid, to seek the EER to file a complaint. I aslo warned if the accusation were deamed to be unfounded, their would be consequences. Fortunately, I operate under a policy that does not look favorable to false accusations. Needless to say, these were exploratory accusations to determine if I feared going down that road.

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    another politician is charged with sexual misconduct
    assault with a dead weapon, i suspect
    83-year-old Iowa candidate charged with being a gigolo | The Raw Story
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    I once was the investigating officer on a sexual harassment claim. a couple of female soldiers accused their SGT of giving them crappy duty assignments because they wouldn't date him. My investigation revealed that these two idiots were just lazy, worthless POS that NOBODY on post wanted working for them, so their SGT was doing the best he could to find any assignment that would take them. They turned around and filed an EO complaint against me, claiming that the only reason I ruled in their SGT's favor was because they were black. I had been going to let the whole thing drop...but when they tried to be little bitches about it, I simply took their sworn statements and charged them both with violating article 107 of the UCMJ (filing a false official statement/report). They both were reduced one pay grade in rank, given 45 days additional duty and fined half a month's pay for two months. I made it a point every evening to drive by the warehouse where they were scraping old paint off the walls and wave to them.
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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I once was the investigating officer on a sexual harassment claim. a couple of female soldiers accused their SGT of giving them crappy duty assignments because they wouldn't date him. My investigation revealed that these two idiots were just lazy, worthless POS that NOBODY on post wanted working for them, so their SGT was doing the best he could to find any assignment that would take them. They turned around and filed an EO complaint against me, claiming that the only reason I ruled in their SGT's favor was because they were black. I had been going to let the whole thing drop...but when they tried to be little bitches about it, I simply took their sworn statements and charged them both with violating article 107 of the UCMJ (filing a false official statement/report). They both were reduced one pay grade in rank, given 45 days additional duty and fined half a month's pay for two months. I made it a point every evening to drive by the warehouse where they were scraping old paint off the walls and wave to them.
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    seems the military has changed significantly since my era. it appears that accepting troops to perform duty has now become discretionary
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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