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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Piggy backing on danarhea's comments above, here is an Washington Post opinion piece on the matter.

    Enjoy. :wave:

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    why do post things that are your opinion as fact? this isn't about clinotn, it's about cain.
    I was only using an historical reference to show that just because Herman Cain is accused of doing, something, it doesn't necessarily diminish his chances of getting elected.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Piggy backing on danarhea's comments above, here is an Washington Post opinion piece on the matter.

    Enjoy. :wave:
    Except that I do not believe that this was a bad move on Cain's part. In making his denial, he effectively voided the confidentiality agreement. If there really was sexual harrassment of those 2 women, they are now free to disclose it.

    So my question is going to be "Where's the beef"?
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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    You know I have managed to work in the professional world for 15 years now and have yet to be accused by any woman of sexual harassment. I would imagine that most people that defend Cain have managed not to be accused of it themselves either.
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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Except that I do not believe that this was a bad move on Cain's part. In making his denial, he effectively voided the confidentiality agreement. If there really was sexual harrassment of those 2 women, they are now free to disclose it.

    So my question is going to be "Where's the beef"?
    Oh, I agree with you. Whether the charges were sexual harrassment or inappropriate sexual behavior, he took the gloves off on this one. So, it's now up to the women to risk coming forward to confront the issue. Risky move...he'd better hope it doesn't backfire on him though.

    (Of course, there is one thing folks might not have considered...what if the women are both dead? What a convenience for Herman Cain, huh? I'm just saying... )

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Here's the deal:

    1) Herman Cain said that he was falsely accused. That is an admission that he was accused, whether falsely or not.

    2) The Restaurant Association, of which he was Chairman at the time, paid off both women, on condition that neither party be allowed to disclose the circumstances.

    Here is where it gets very interesting:

    3) After the Politico article came out, Herman Cain said that the women falsely accused him.

    4) In making that statement, the confidentiality agreement is now voided.


    5) Which means the women who made the accusations are no longer bound by that agreement. They are free to come forward and speak up.

    6) If they don't, then nothing happened in the first place, and both women were out to extort a buck by making the accusations in the first place.

    Put it all together, and it shows that:

    a) At this time, Herman Cain appears to be telling the truth.

    b) Cain chose an ingenious method with which to defend himself from a false accusation. Had he not violated the confidentiality agreement, he could very well have been tarred and feathered with this accusation. Now, he dares the accusers to come out with their accusations, and gets to face his accusers.

    Whatever you might say about Cain, he is a pretty savvy guy, and until some proof is brought forward that he committed sexual harrassment, his stock just went up in my book. I still would not vote for him, but he earns my respect.
    We don't have the "confidentiality agreement" so we don't know what it says, or even if Cain is a party to it. All he has said is that he did nothing wrong and the accusations are baseless. I assume he said the same then, and that any release agreement he signed also says he admitted to no wrongdoing.

    It's not like he has disclosed the names of the women involved, or their accusations, or the amount paid to them.

    This story will only get more interesting when it is revealed that the WH is behind it.

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    During Herman Cain’s tenure as the head of the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s, at least two female employees complained to colleagues and senior association officials about inappropriate behavior by Cain, ultimately leaving their jobs at the trade group, multiple sources confirm to POLITICO.
    The women complained of sexually suggestive behavior by Cain that made them angry and uncomfortable, the sources said, and they signed agreements with the restaurant group that gave them financial payouts to leave the association. The agreements also included language that bars the women from talking about their departures.

    This seems awfully thin on facts and proof, and the timing (coming out just when Cain is gaining momentum) seems very suspicious.

    I have my doubts that it will be widely accepted as true without a lot more compelling evidence.

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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

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    Would you vote for a man who came out as being able to fellate himself?
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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    If I assume it's true, Herman Caine is no saint. I haven't seen, hear of or read about a politician who's a saint yet... Caine's human after all. Well garsh ...
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    Re: Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You know I have managed to work in the professional world for 15 years now and have yet to be accused by any woman of sexual harassment. I would imagine that most people that defend Cain have managed not to be accused of it themselves either.
    I'll say this, sexual harrassment laws have grown to an extent that if you tell a dirty joke to your male colleagues and a third party hears it in the other room they can slap you for it, even though you didn't have the intent to offend, or that the outside party wasn't even supposed to be included in the activity. Heck, my dad knew an older guy who got fired for calling a woman hon, she assumed he was being a dirty old man but he literally called all women hon, it was just his way of speaking. In my opinion there are legitimate cases of sexual harrassment and then there is the other 95% that was in the catagory of someone making things bigger than they were.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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