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    Re: Denver Occupy Tries to Storm Capitol - Police use pepper spray, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Mob rule.
    So having the right to protest is mob rule now?
    So the Tea Party was mob rule?
    Any moment that used protesting as a source of action is mob rule?
    What other downgrading terms do you have in that brain of yours?

    Fomented by a failed jackass liberal President, and an ethically backrupt Democrat Party.
    So the Democratic Party and the US "jackass liberal President" ( ) is sponsoring and backing a movement that will strike at the heart of their donations (wall street)?
    Yep seems reasonable to me


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    Re: Denver Occupy Tries to Storm Capitol - Police use pepper spray, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Ghandi?? WTF?? You're the one who's ****ing on the legacy of Ghandi by comparing these occupy protesters with him. GoodFreakin'grief.
    Obama was "Jesus", and that didn't work out so well. So they are looking for another. After Ghandi, think Mohammad or Mao.

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    Re: Denver Occupy Tries to Storm Capitol - Police use pepper spray, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So having the right to protest is mob rule now?
    So the Tea Party was mob rule?
    Any moment that used protesting as a source of action is mob rule?
    What other downgrading terms do you have in that brain of yours?


    So the Democratic Party and the US "jackass liberal President" ( ) is sponsoring and backing a movement that will strike at the heart of their donations (wall street)?
    Yep seems reasonable to me
    Sometimes the truth hurts. Try a Bud Lite to help you with this reality.

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    Re: Denver Occupy Tries to Storm Capitol - Police use pepper spray, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    what did the motorcycle cop do to deserve it?
    Sorry if that wasnt clear. The PROTESTER got what he had coming, not the cop.
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    Re: Denver Occupy Tries to Storm Capitol - Police use pepper spray, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Ghandi?? WTF?? You're the one who's ****ing on the legacy of Ghandi by comparing these occupy protesters with him. GoodFreakin'grief.
    Ghandi BROKE THE LAW. Over and over again. He was arrested repeatedly for doing so. So was MLK.

    Civil disobedience is ABOUT breaking the law to call attention to problems/issues. It is a non-violent way of achieving revolutionary ends without the usually commensurate bloodshed and destruction.

    I understand that many don't approve, but the rhetoric is pretty similar to that faced by the civil rights and vietnam protests, and I bet Ghandis as well.

    There's a whole lotta hatin goin on, but at least the country is discussing these issues, and will continue to do so as long as the Occupations continue.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience
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    Re: Denver Occupy Tries to Storm Capitol - Police use pepper spray, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker, replying to Karl View Post
    I don't think you know what fascism is . . . and pray tell - if you do - how on EARTH do you draw that connection to the US?
    Violent oppression of peaceful dissent, in concert with the perpetuation of violent conflict. Does that not succinctly describe the government reaction to OWS, as well as the right wing agenda over the past several decades? Do you have a different definition?

    Fascism, the more it considers and observes the future and the development of humanity, quite apart from political considerations of the moment, believes neither in the possibility nor the utility of perpetual peace. -- Benito Mussolini (18831945) Fascism, the more it cons, Benito Mussolini | Dictionary.com

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    Re: Denver Occupy Tries to Storm Capitol - Police use pepper spray, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Sometimes the truth hurts. Try a Bud Lite to help you with this reality.
    So the "truth" to you is a group of protesters are using mob rule and being backed by the US president and the democratic party to get corporatations and our us political system seperated but at the same time the democratic party and the US president rely on corporations?


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    Re: Denver Occupy Tries to Storm Capitol - Police use pepper spray, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    I don't take more than my fair share
    I'll bet you enjoy being able to judge what is, "your fair share", vice someone telling you what your fair share is. Am I close?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Denver Occupy Tries to Storm Capitol - Police use pepper spray, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    You do know there is a difference between civil disobedience and criminal disobedience?

    BOTH are DISOBEYING THE LAW, one is doing so CIVILLY and the other CRIMINALLY.

    You are conflating the two. And ****ting on the legacy of Ghandi when you do.

    Of course, they would have beanbagged his old ass off those train tracks and hooked his hippie ass up to an IV drip strapped to a bed if he tried a hunger strike.

    Sorry if I'm my obedience to the state is entirely conditional.

    You can be a subject if that's what makes you feel safe.
    It's a crime to not comply with a lawful order from a police officer. It's also a crime to resist arrest.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Denver Occupy Tries to Storm Capitol - Police use pepper spray, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    To those dismissing illegal acts from the protesters I will leave you with a reality check: If the police tell you that you have violated a law and vacate the area, you vacate the area. Failure to follow police commands ends in one of three possibilities 1) you get arrested 2) you get your ass kicked by the police 3) all of the above. The police have a job to do, that is enforce the law and it does not allow for whatever the hell you think passes as moral superiority(hint: You probably don't know what the hell is going on anyway or you would have taken a different route to begin with).

    Next, your ideas do not make you immune to getting your ass kicked by the police and it doesn't dismiss charges......if you remain after a police warning you are wrong, you were actually wrong to begin with which is why you were warned to begin with. Pepper/freeze spray hurts, it's supposed to in order to either surpress the very stupid move of charging at or throwing objects towards police.....we'll call it anti-dummy spray. Less than lethal methods of crowd control such as tear gas, bean bag rounds, and rubber bullets are par for the course when you decide to try and riot, they hurt, they injure, they are supposed to but you complain that they hurt and you know what, we don't care because if you had done what you were told to begin with guess what.....they DON'T get used.....gasp.

    Finally, if you had been in a less free country it wouldn't be simple injury you would be complaining about because they would have used real bullets, chlorine gas, or military vehicles to clear you out, that isn't simple injury......that's DEAD. So maybe.....just maybe stop whining because you are wrong, very wrong, and if you hadn't gone over your freedom of speech line you wouldn't be bleeding.

    Have a nice day.
    The above post boils down to:

    1. Don't disobey police officers because they're always right.

    2. If you do, then you were wrong regardless of the context of the situation.

    3. It could always be worse cause you could live in the 3rd world where the police get to kill people.

    A fine example of why civil disobedience is something conservatives preach and Liberals practice.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 10-31-11 at 02:45 AM.
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