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    Here’s one from Reddit user 0311kilo33:

    Marines Storm Reddit After Occupy Oakland Shooting of Scott Olsen - FishbowlLA

    As God is my witness. I will fight tooth and nail to restore the decency this country was founded upon. The politicians, banks and large corporations have ruined this country. I find it difficult to notice any sense of politeness on the streets anymore. But it goes farther. As a Marine and a citizen I am outraged. I am sick to death of the world my children are being raised in.

    So I ask all of you, can you too sense the tipping point? When will enough be enough? If not now, when? I feel the problem is that the average Joe citizen is ignorant and comfortable. These, in addition to selfishness have become the standard for the majority of the population. As long as people are comfortable they remain silent. Well, I’m really ****ing uncomfortable and I’m sick of seeing this sort of **** happening. The Occupy protests that are going on are our first glimmer of hope. If we can take this and move it further, get every lazy ass off their rocker and open their eyes; then maybe, just maybe we have a chance.

    Semper Fi brothers, and remember who you are. Protectors of a great nation, not politicians or wealthy money grubbing bankers and the like. When it comes time, I know we’ll stand strong.
    Would the LEOs really take on the retired US Marines?

    If online reaction is any indication, it’s not a stretch to think Olsen’s injury could be the start of something very big. We have a lot of military combat veterans in this country who haven’t been treated very well since they left the service. No job prospects. Inadequate medical coverage. If they take their anger offline and into the streets, the OWS movement will become an extremely potent, and WELL TRAINED force.
    This puts a lot of bite into the OWS protest.
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    Re: marines-storm-reddit-after-occupy-oakland-shoot

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    Here’s one from Reddit user 0311kilo33:

    Marines Storm Reddit After Occupy Oakland Shooting of Scott Olsen - FishbowlLA


    Would the LEOs really take on the retired US Marines?



    This puts a lot of bite into the OWS protest.
    So you believe this is a credible threat of armed insurrection? Wouldn't it be better to wait until this marine and OWS figure what they want and who they want it from before before manning the barricades?

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    Re: marines-storm-reddit-after-occupy-oakland-shoot

    Scott Olsen Exposed
    Scott Olsen is the Marine Corps veteran critically injured at Occupy Oakland Tuesday night, during a confrontation between the protesters and the police. The latest news is good: his condition has been upgraded from critical to fair and he is apparently conscious and able to respond to doctors and family members. I sincerely wish him a full recovery, and I also hope that a proper investigation is conducted to determine whether police misconduct is responsible for his injuries.

    But I ran across something this evening that may add a new dimension to this story. It has been widely reported that Olsen is a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War. But apparently his opposition to the U.S. military and the Marine Corps in which he served runs a little deeper.

    The site is no longer live, but Olsen was the founder of IHateTheMarineCorps.com, a private user forum apparently dedicated to bashing the Marine Corps.

    A Scott Olsen is listed as the registered owner of this domain, and I was able to confirm that this is indeed the same Scott Olsen based on a user profile on the fundraising site pledgie.com.

    Compare the image above to Olsen’s profile on Facebook – it’s definitely him.

    Using this information, I also uncovered a comment from Olsen on the Yahoo Answers site from last year where he is highly critical of the Marine Corps:
    If all this is true, I doubt some backstabber will be supported by the USMC brotherhood, after all it is "SEMPER FIDELIS" not "semper odiosa"
    The question is more important than the answer!

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    Re: marines-storm-reddit-after-occupy-oakland-shoot

    Quote Originally Posted by Disputatious71 View Post
    If all this is true, I doubt some backstabber will be supported by the USMC brotherhood, after all it is "SEMPER FIDELIS" not "semper odiosa"
    That's a different guy with the name Scott Olsen. There are many men with that name.

    See:"Right wing Launcher a smear campaign against Scott Olsen" at: The Right Launches A Smear Campaign Against Occupy Oakland’s Scott Olsen - Democratic Underground

    Swift Boating at it's finest!
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    Re: marines-storm-reddit-after-occupy-oakland-shoot

    Quote Originally Posted by toomuchtime_ View Post
    So you believe this is a credible threat of armed insurrection? Wouldn't it be better to wait until this marine and OWS figure what lthey want and who they want it from before before manning the barricades?
    You might want to deal with the citizen"s militia first:

    http://www.infowars.com/occupy-phoenix-with-ar-15s/
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    Re: marines-storm-reddit-after-occupy-oakland-shoot

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    Would the LEOs really take on the retired US Marines? This puts a lot of bite into the OWS protest.
    Retired maries are not going to take on LEOs, Mickey Shane. If they do, they will be dealt with just like any other threat to law enforcement.
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    Re: marines-storm-reddit-after-occupy-oakland-shoot

    Marines should stick to killing folks and stay away from threatening law enforcement. Everyone's just trying to do their jobs.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: marines-storm-reddit-after-occupy-oakland-shoot

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Retired maries are not going to take on LEOs, Mickey Shane. If they do, they will be dealt with just like any other threat to law enforcement.
    All they need to do is be present. They don't have to do anything. Their reputation proceeds them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Marines should stick to killing folks and stay away from threatening law enforcement. Everyone's just trying to do their jobs.
    That canister fire from the Cops was just plain bad luck. When you hurt one Marine, you hurt them all.
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    Re: marines-storm-reddit-after-occupy-oakland-shoot

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    That canister fire from the Cops was just plain bad luck. When you hurt one Marine, you hurt them all.
    Reminded me about this:

    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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