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    Re: The 53%: We are NOT Occupy Wall Street

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I don't think you or anyone else who cares that much about politics are petty. I just personally don't understand it and can't really relate to it.
    Let's get this straight. You don't understand how someone does not like to be forced to give money to people they do not support?
    Are you sure that's what you cannot relate to?

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    Re: The 53%: We are NOT Occupy Wall Street

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Funny...but people manage to find jobs every day in this country.
    There are some jobs, but that doesn't mean that everyone can find them. Thus is the flaw in your logic. near 10% unemployment means that we have near 90% employment. So sure, people can find jobs. But the high unemployment rate sustained during our recession does mean that even more people than normal will be UNABLE to find a job.

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    A good chunk of them can just take their ass back to school.
    They could, and I don't particularly think that's a bad idea.

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    If it is a pro jobs rally...great...then they should have targeted labor as well as industry. See...thats part of the problem with the vague general nature of this protest. What exactly are they whining about again? What change are we talking about? Influence on politicians? The tendency of politicians to favor corporations? Jobs? High student loans? A change to communism? **** the po-lice? Sad they got into home loans they couldnt afford? Pick something.
    The main contention is the extreme mixing of State and Corporate entity. It's always been that.

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    Re: The 53%: We are NOT Occupy Wall Street

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I was raised (literally) by a bunch of old school navy chiefs. You never let the kids see you bitch and when you are with your peers and superiors, you dont bitch, you man-up. Im not implying people didnt on occasion complain...but for the most part...when it came time to do the job...you did the job. I probably saw less of it from my folks because I didnt do it around them.

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    Re: The 53%: We are NOT Occupy Wall Street

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Ummm...why....why exactly do corporatins or Wall Street care about jobs? Where is this false idea that jobs in anyway is the goal of Wall Street or corporations.
    I know of know significant business that is not always look for good candidates. Are you saying most corporations don't look for job candidates year-round?

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    Re: The 53%: We are NOT Occupy Wall Street

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Let's get this straight. You don't understand how someone does not like to be forced to give money to people they do not support?
    Are you sure that's what you cannot relate to?
    Um... no. That's not at all what I'm saying. I'm saying I can't relate to people who let politics dictate their musical tastes. I thought I was clear before on that, but I apologize if I wasn't.

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    Re: The 53%: We are NOT Occupy Wall Street

    Here's the difference in the OWS crowd.

    First the intelligent questions and a well made point:

    Peter Schiff @ #OccupyWallStreet - YouTube



    Second, the unintelligible and confusing question and (possibly?) a point.

    Peter Schiff at OWS: "Walmart Doesn't Hold a Gun to Your Head!" - YouTube
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: The 53%: We are NOT Occupy Wall Street

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    If it's pro jobs - I would expect corporations and Wall Street to support OWS and their ability to try and find jobs and be down there gathering up applications and resumes.
    If its jobs, wall street is the last place you start. I dont imagine any of this have thought anything out. At BEST they impact the stock market and hurt the top 1% a little bit. At best. More realistic scenario if it gets to that the 1% absorbs loses (that convert to tax write-offs) and those ****ing morons destroy their own 401ks (or their mommy and daddy's).

    Thats the biggest problem behind all of this...the organizers dont give a **** and the morons attending arent smart enough to think ANY of this through.

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    Re: The 53%: We are NOT Occupy Wall Street

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Ummm...why....why exactly do corporatins or Wall Street care about jobs? Where is this false idea that jobs in anyway is the goal of Wall Street or corporations.
    PROFIT!!!??? How would the investments that Wall street make increase in value without growth in the entity that they invested? This growth is based on increased production that would be tied to increased employment.

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    Re: The 53%: We are NOT Occupy Wall Street

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The main contention is the extreme mixing of State and Corporate entity. It's always been that.
    OWS has a "main contention"? I thought it was 99%, which has nothing to do with mixing of state/corporate entities even if there were such a thing as a "Main contention".

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    Re: The 53%: We are NOT Occupy Wall Street

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Navy Chiefs! No joke but every Navy Chief I've ever met is tough as nails and cool as shi*. A friend just got married and 3 of her Uncles were navy chiefs. We got trashed and hung out until like 3 in the morning. These guys had like 40 thousand stories of their days in the Navy.
    NAvy is IMO the only branch that really has the rank structure correct. I watched my E8 brother dress down an O4 for having the balls to go onto his LCAC (Landing/Hovercraft) and addressing his sailors without clearing it with him first. The O4 stormed over to the O6 and complained and the O6's response was "well...next time clear it with the Chief, dumbass"....and walked away. In the Army or AF, enlisted folks wouldnt run the LCACs...they would have a team of officers doing it and **** would never get done.

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