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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

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    I think I know conservative's least favorite amendment. lol.
    Who was it that passed the Fairness Doctrine?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    The problem is that the constitution is the highest law in the land... They, unless we amend the constitution, should be able to protest anywhere at anytime, including your front yard.
    The Constitution gives us the freedom of speech.

    Can I call you 127 times a day, every single day for a month? Can I publish a biographical book telling the world that you murdered someone when you were 16? Can I sit on your front step completely blocking your door singing Lady Gaga songs and reciting British poetry for as long as I want?


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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Actually, you very much can assemble where and when you want. The constitutional right to assemble and protest trumps any law. The constitution is the supreme law of the land. All others are subordinate to it. Now, in order for the first amendment to apply, you'd have to show that your protest had to happen there, but only if there's a conflict with something else, like personal property rights. If a more suitable location is available, you can be forced to move there. In the case of a public park or other location that is open for public use... there's certainly no location that is vastly more suited to host a protest, and something MUST be made available. To prevent the protest by disallowing it from having a location is infringing on that first amendment guarantee.

    Would the middle of the street be better? Of course not, there are lots of safety issues. A public park is the most suitable forum for this demonstration to take place. A law that closes the park could not interfere with the right to assemble and protest. Under the constitution, the protesters have the right to be there, regardless of any laws that would ordinarily kick people out.
    That means I can tote a gun, anywhere I want and there's not a ****ing thing anyone can do about it, even in gun free zones. Yes?
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That means I can tote a gun, anywhere I want and there's not a ****ing thing anyone can do about it, even in gun free zones. Yes?

    OoOooOooooOoooOoooooohhh...

    Busted!
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    Some flash grenades, tear gas and rubber bullets are to expected in a protest of this magnitude. It is gaining strength and the status quo doesn't approve. Unfortunately, I doubt this will go on much longer without some deaths. This is the 1960s all over again.
    That's what the Libbos are hoping for.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    OoOooOooooOoooOoooooohhh...

    Busted!
    I know, huh?

    I recall Libbos nuttin' up about gun control laws and how they trump the Constitution. According to the Libbos on this thread, I can tote a gun into a school house and there's not a ****ing thing anyone can do about it.

    How awesome is this?

    I only wish the Libbos had the nads to address my post.
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    I don't know, but we should all be proud of the police because as this thing blows up, the Occupy Movement will as well.
    Yeah, just like the anti-war movement blew up. It guaranteed Nixon's election.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    Some flash grenades, tear gas and rubber bullets are to expected in a protest of this magnitude. It is gaining strength and the status quo doesn't approve. Unfortunately, I doubt this will go on much longer without some deaths. This is the 1960s all over again.
    I completely agree.


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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    So.....yeah....



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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That means I can tote a gun, anywhere I want and there's not a ****ing thing anyone can do about it, even in gun free zones. Yes?
    If and only if toting the gun is 100% necessary to make your political point, yes. However I don't think you'll find many situations where that's the case. Even a protest about guns doesn't actually need guns present to make the point.

    Remember, the crackdowns on the OWS protesters aren't really trying to get them to "move somewhere else". There is no somewhere else. They're throwing them out of the one place where it is practical and safe (and thus legal) to hold the protest in order to stop the protest. If there were an alternate location that the police were trying to move these people to, that would be a different story. But there isn't.
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