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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think the police were fully within their rights.

    The law must still be respected, these people can't hijack property and ignore the law in the name of "free speech" and "protesting."
    So you are okay with removing peoples rights as long as they are protesting? Should the protesters not be aloud to carry guns, I mean the police could open fire on them...
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Okay, if I have one article telling me that they are peaceful, how am I supposed to jump to the irrational conclusion that they are not? You are confusing...
    Because Russia Today isn't a legitimate news organization......

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Because Russia Today isn't a legitimate news organization......

    I think next time, instead of telling people to "Go get a clue", you should link them to a non-bias news source on the story.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Ohh they assaulted them?
    Looked like to me a group of 7 cops dressed in riot gear were standing there then the protesters came and about 97% just kept on walking past them.. Then about 10 or 12 stood by them and started yelling and pointing at the cops and something flew in and almost hit the cops..
    And that is assaulting them?
    Thats justification for this?
    Man oh man civil disobedience has become a lame term... Man look at Greece...
    But lets not forget when the cops brutally arrest, beat, and assault peaceful protesters thats ok they are just "enforcing the law"!
    You can keep saying peaceful all you want.

    Just because you keep repeating it, it doesn't make it so.

    Paint Cans, Bottles, Firecrackers, Rocks......

    Those are not tools of the peaceful.

    WTF Do they need firecrackers for at a peaceful protest?

    Why are they told to bring bottles to RE-Occupy?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    So you are okay with removing peoples rights as long as they are protesting? Should the protesters not be aloud to carry guns, I mean the police could open fire on them...
    I support upholding property rights and city laws. They have the right to protest within lawful parameters.
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I support upholding property rights and city laws. They have the right to protest within lawful parameters.
    The problem is that the constitution is the highest law in the land... They, unless we amend the constitution, should be able to protest anywhere at anytime, including your front yard.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    The problem is that the constitution is the highest law in the land... They, unless we amend the constitution, should be able to protest anywhere at anytime, including your front yard.
    WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG........... WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG....... YOUR WRONG.... YOUR WRONG..... YOUR WRONGGGGGGGG..

    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    People in this country have a right to peaceably assemble, which they did.
    But, they don't have the right to break the law in the process.

    This is just another example of how Libbos are all about the law of the land, until those laws are no longer convenient.

    I bet the Libbos wouldn't have supported oil companies ignoring the drilling ban and drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    I agree, but thats not what the issue here is and you know it.

    The issue is that once again our country attacks its own citizens because they are scared of freedom of speech. The police say rocks were thrown but they can't prove it and nobody ever will.
    The OWS'ers are endangering the environment. That's why they were attacked.

    How much green space has been destroyed by the OWS'ers?

    Free speech doesn't over-rule enviromental safety goddamit!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    How does posting that help you at all? It just shows that the police started the riot if anything.

    And in any case, I saw nothing that would show any justification of that use of force.
    Police don't riot. Rioters riot. Fighting back against the police isn't protected by the 1st Amendment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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