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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    As it is, I am still seeing polling numbers going up or remaining steady, but believe what you want to if it makes you feel good.
    Polls are foolish measures. You know that. Do you agree that wall street should have less influence on politicians/?Why YES! Are you going to vote against democrats that consistently take in millions form bankers and brokers? Ummm...no...

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
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    Do you understand the difference between a peaceful protestor and a violent one? Do you shoot a peaceful protestor?
    You can keep saying "peaceful" all you want.

    Were you there?
    How do you know they were peaceful?

    You are the equivalent of a guy punching a woman in the face in plain sight of an officer and then screaming while getting arrested, "I didnt do anything... I didn't do anything.... I didn't do anything!"

    Firecrackers? Paint Cans? Rocks? Bottles (presumably filled with something, even if not... ?)? That is "peaceful" to you.

    Go get a clue.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    This is when i say its ok to fight back as protesters...


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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    Lol what leaders.

    Do you really want to get into that same discussion again, Josie?

    And, as you recall, the NYC protest was completely non violent and look what happened. Now a world wide phenomeneom. The only violence committed there was by police officers

    In the beginning of these protests, the police arrestd people who they thought were the leaders so that it would end. But there are no leaders so it didn't end.
    You were there too? Amazing... .. my oh my how you get around.

    I already saw in the videos a guy jumping on police officers making an arrest, you can't see much because the camera person then quickly changes view as to not allow us to see what happened very well.

    I made a post about it in one of these threads.... none of the protest supporters bothered to comment.... surprisingly.....

    If Osama Bin Laden said, "I am peaceful." You would believe him huh?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    You can keep saying "peaceful" all you want.

    Were you there?
    How do you know they were peaceful?

    You are the equivalent of a guy punching a woman in the face in plain sight of an officer and then screaming while getting arrested, "I didnt do anything... I didn't do anything.... I didn't do anything!"

    Firecrackers? Paint Cans? Rocks? Bottles (presumably filled with something, even if not... ?)? That is "peaceful" to you.

    Go get a clue.
    You get a clue, I was referring to this article Veteran in critical condition after police assault at Occupy Oakland — RT, which explicitly states:

    Olsen, a veteran of the 3rd Battalion, 4th Marines, was injured last night while participating in the Occupy Oakland demonstration, a West Coast offshoot of the ongoing Occupy Wall Street protests that have spread across the world. Tuesday morning police had launched a spontaneous raid on the Bay Area campsite, evicting and arresting dozens of peaceful protesters. Vowing to return to keep their fight alive, hundreds came back hours later to continue their occupation in downtown Oakland, a neighboring city of San Francisco.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
    -Jryan

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    This is when i say its ok to fight back as protesters...
    What? When your group assaults the police and they react, its okay to fight back?

    Get a clue.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    You get a clue, I was referring to this article Veteran in critical condition after police assault at Occupy Oakland — RT, which explicitly states:

    Olsen, a veteran of the 3rd Battalion, 4th Marines, was injured last night while participating in the Occupy Oakland demonstration, a West Coast offshoot of the ongoing Occupy Wall Street protests that have spread across the world. Tuesday morning police had launched a spontaneous raid on the Bay Area campsite, evicting and arresting dozens of peaceful protesters. Vowing to return to keep their fight alive, hundreds came back hours later to continue their occupation in downtown Oakland, a neighboring city of San Francisco.
    Because "Russia Today" says they are peaceful it must be so?

    You realize that "Russia Today" is contributed to by the guy Adam Kokesh that does the "Adam vs. The Man" **** right...............Talk about Objectivity.

    If Saddam Hussein told you he was peaceful to the Kurds.... You would believe him.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Because "Russia Today" says they are peaceful it must be so?

    You realize that "Russia Today" is contributed to by the guy Adam Kokesh that does the "Adam vs. The Man" **** right...............Talk about Objectivity.

    If Saddam Hussein told you he was peaceful to the Kurds.... You would believe him.
    Okay, if I have one article telling me that they are peaceful, how am I supposed to jump to the irrational conclusion that they are not? You are confusing...
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
    -Jryan

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    I think the police were fully within their rights.

    The law must still be respected, these people can't hijack property and ignore the law in the name of "free speech" and "protesting."
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    What? When your group assaults the police and they react, its okay to fight back?

    Get a clue.
    Ohh they assaulted them?
    Looked like to me a group of 7 cops dressed in riot gear were standing there then the protesters came and about 97% just kept on walking past them.. Then about 10 or 12 stood by them and started yelling and pointing at the cops and something flew in and almost hit the cops..
    And that is assaulting them?
    Thats justification for this?
    Man oh man civil disobedience has become a lame term... Man look at Greece...
    But lets not forget when the cops brutally arrest, beat, and assault peaceful protesters thats ok they are just "enforcing the law"!
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