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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    you wonder why the 'movement' is losing steam? Two reason...one...people that go to work are getting tired of them and two...people like those protesters.
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    Poll: 43 percent agree with views of "Occupy Wall Street" - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

    Forty-three percent of Americans agree with the views of the "Occupy Wall Street" movement, according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll that found a widespread belief that money and wealth should be distributed more evenly in America.
    Twenty-seven percent of Americans said they disagree with the movement, which began more than a month ago in lower Manhattan and has since spread across the country and around the world. Thirty percent said they were unsure.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Right, because the rioters didn't step out of line.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    It'd be helpful to see all that happened BEFORE the shots/etc.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    It'd be helpful to see all that happened BEFORE the shots/etc.
    Yeah because the police said they were running when he got hit in the head, what were they running from? Where were they running too? Were they carrying anything?
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    People in this country have a right to peaceably assemble, which they did.
    and municipalities have the right to keep public order, by requiring protest permits.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    It is. It is losing news coverage and it is losing public interest. But hey...ME...I want them to have staying power. I want to see them out there protesting deep into the winter months. Im setting my DVR for it.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    It is. It is losing news coverage and it is losing public interest. But hey...ME...I want them to have staying power. I want to see them out there protesting deep into the winter months. Im setting my DVR for it.
    As it is, I am still seeing polling numbers going up or remaining steady, but believe what you want to if it makes you feel good.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Yeah because the police said they were running when he got hit in the head, what were they running from? Where were they running too? Were they carrying anything?
    Having observed many violent riots on YouTube in the past, I find that dubious at best. Usually someone in the riot/protest/group does something stupid, like throw something, and, like trying to hit a wasps nest, they come out and punish. Furthermore, I tend to distrust socialists because they typically involve revolutions. Soory, but I'm being brutally honest.

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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and municipalities have the right to keep public order, by requiring protest permits.
    Protest permits are silly. The point of a protest is to be inconveniant to the powers that be. That being said, permits are for the conveniance of the powers that be.
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    Re: Occupy Oakland Attacked By Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, and Flash Grenades

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    Protest permits are silly. The point of a protest is to be inconveniant to the powers that be. That being said, permits are for the conveniance of the powers that be.
    For a common area, like a park which most OWS people are using, it makes sense.
    It is a common area and the OWS folks aren't the only people in this universe.

    Others would like to use these common areas, for a limited time, like all are entitled to.
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